axle
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 08:58 AM |
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Fair Fuel Petition - Please Sign
I got this from an other e-mail to disterbute
Hi,
I think you will agree with me and others that in this country we are paying far too much for the fuel in our cars. In fact on average most people are
paying around 10% of their salary just to fill their cars up every week. The Fair Fuel UK Campaign are doing all they can to get this Government to
lower fuel prices. They have set up an e-petition to have a full debate in Parliament regarding the high fuel prices here in the UK.
They rapidly need 100,000 signatures to make this debate happen to try to get the Government to reduce fuel prices by cutting fuel duty. In just 12
hours they got 4,000 signatures overnight but, with your help they need more.
Please sign the e-petition straight away and will you please forward this e-mail to as many of your friends, club members or anyone else you can think
of to sign the petition. If you just click on this link it will take you straight to the e-petition.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/347
Many thanks for your time and together we can hope to lower the high fuel prices we are seeing now.
Kind Regards
[Edited on 19/8/11 by axle]
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 10:18 AM |
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done now 52,000 signatures.
Never understood how we continually get told by the EU to tow this line and that and introduce barmy human rights laws that only seem to protect the
guilty but they never tell our government that we're are paying more than nearly everyone else in Europe and to get it sorted out.
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daviep
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 10:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
done now 52,000 signatures.
Never understood how we continually get told by the EU to tow this line and that and introduce barmy human rights laws that only seem to protect the
guilty but they never tell our government that we're are paying more than nearly everyone else in Europe and to get it sorted out.
Having just driven through Holland, Germany, Italy and France I would say fuel prices were much the same as UK if not slightly higher.
Much as I would like to see lower fuel prices it's not going to happen anytime soon, the country is broke and needs to screw the maximum it can
from anybody who can afford it.
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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r1_pete
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 10:44 AM |
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Agree with that, I never did the conversion but unleaded was 1 Euro 65 - 70 in Holland back in April.....
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 10:45 AM |
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I stand corrected.
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adithorp
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 11:21 AM |
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Fuel was dearer than here in France, Italy and Switzerland in June this year.
Don't see why I (living close to work) would/should choose to pay more tax through other things, just so those that choose to commute miles will
be better off.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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mrwibble
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 11:30 AM |
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i've signed it, but i think we'll have to face up to the fact that rising fuel prices is changing peoples driving habits, driving more
efficiently, driving less which helps reduce CO2 emmisions (helping the uk meet its emission targets if you care about that, or helping the
environment if you don't). Its also driving sales of efficient lower emission cars, (despite arguments that producing a low emitting car negates
any benefit) I don't see any incentive for the government to try and lower fuel prices, which essentially would have to be a tax reduction, made
even less likely by the current deficit reduction program.
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bi22le
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 11:45 AM |
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Very supprised to see such a rounded view of judgement on a topic so fond in all of our hearts.
I drive alot for work, and there is NOTHING that can be done about it. Believe me or U2U me asking, Im not explaining my company on this post.THe
problem being is its putting up prices on many things not just commuting. Lowering fuel will save everybody money in all sorts of ways, if you buy a
product it could be less if any transporting is involved.
Driving is a necesity and due to the costs involved 'alturnative' means of transport have the liciecence to put their prices up yet still
appeal attractive on face value.
Its not that the tax is too high, (again) Davie speaks sense that money needs to be recouped, its that the fuel companies are aloud to generate vast
profits by holding the world to ransom.
Any saved money is good money, so I am signing.
All the best,
Biz
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Please read my ring story:
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Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 12:11 PM |
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Okay I'll try a different approach as my last point was completely wrong As Davie points out we're in the deep end of the nasty stuff
financially so the government is going to want to raise as much cash as possible.
So to appease motorists whilst still maintaining a good income, abolish road tax and stick an extra ??p per litre on to be creamed of as a replacement
revenue.
1. You only pay if you drive, and the more you drive the more you pay.
2. You can't avoid paying like you can with a tax disc.
3. You cut down on huge amounts of government bureacracy with DVLA not having to manage tax discs and trying to catch those who don't buy them
and instead concentratye on catching people with no MOT/insurance.
4. All foreign driver visiting will contribute to maintaning our roads seeing they're driving on them.
Is that a good idea or shall I get my coat?
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adithorp
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 12:54 PM |
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I'd go along with that, Jabba.
What really annoys me is the accounting guff the petroleum companies spout. The petrol price rises were unavoidable due to the price of crude going
up. Now the price of crude has fallen the prices remain high and according to them crude price is only a tiny part of the petrol price and therefore
it doesn't fall. If thats the case why did it go up? Ahh, price is because the amout of tax is so high. But the tax is in 2 parts; A fixed
amount per litre and the VAT @20%. So the only increase in tax is the VAT on the increase applied by petrol companies . If They reduce thier price the
VAT amount falls.
Then when thier account are released with big profits; None of it is from petrol sales, it's all from getting it out of the ground.
Works like this...
Farmer grows some wheat. Seed cost him £1. He sells" the grain it to his son for £8, who mills it into corn and "sells" the corn to
his mum for £9. She then makes it into 10 loaves of bread and "sells" them to her daughter for £9.50. The girl then SELLS them in the farm
shop for £1 each. All the money was "on paper" except the purchase on seed from the family account and the money paid to the daughter,
who's money went back into the family account. Was the profit £9 or 50p?
Petrol company system says it's 50p.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 01:12 PM |
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Make that 52,956  for what it's worth, but if you don't try you'll never get......
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 03:15 PM |
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53,558 With my help
For those that signed ; You are all now down on Special Branch's Poo List, as political activists. 
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 04:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
Okay I'll try a different approach as my last point was completely wrong As Davie points out we're in the deep end of the nasty stuff
financially so the government is going to want to raise as much cash as possible.
So to appease motorists whilst still maintaining a good income, abolish road tax and stick an extra ??p per litre on to be creamed of as a replacement
revenue.
1. You only pay if you drive, and the more you drive the more you pay.
2. You can't avoid paying like you can with a tax disc.
3. You cut down on huge amounts of government bureacracy with DVLA not having to manage tax discs and trying to catch those who don't buy them
and instead concentratye on catching people with no MOT/insurance.
4. All foreign driver visiting will contribute to maintaning our roads seeing they're driving on them.
Is that a good idea or shall I get my coat?
That is a good idea, and I like that when I posted this everyone grumbled!
What the government don't know is that it's fairly well documented that penny pinching and squeezing is the worst thing they can do right
now...
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Chippy
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 04:24 PM |
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Why Oh! Why do we keep waffling on about the price of fuel, it will not come down, BUT what we should be on about is putting road tax onto fuel
rather than the stupid system that we have now, where all pay the same regardless of miles travelled. If tax was on fuel then those that do very high
milage would pay more, those that did low milage would pay less, and that, to me sounds much fairer. Just my two penath! Cheers Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 05:48 PM |
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Thing is we're not arguing the price of fuel, it's the tax that's been put on it. Twice.
Our fuel really is just as expensive as it is in the USA, yet we pay about twice what they do.. Tax
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daviep
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| posted on 19/8/11 at 06:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Thing is we're not arguing the price of fuel, it's the tax that's been put on it. Twice.
Our fuel really is just as expensive as it is in the USA, yet we pay about twice what they do.. Tax
I really don't see the point of comparing the price of fuel in the UK and the US, they are completely different economies.
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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