owelly
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Having been 'involved' in a few derv Mondeos, there's no way I could recommend one! The whole 'coded to engine
components' thing means a simple injector change is very expensive. My work colleague has just paid the local indy garage a fortune to get his
52 Mondy running and the MIL light out. More then he paid for the car six months ago! Another chum had the DMF fail closely followed by the injector
pump and then the PAS pump......£1500 later he sold the car for £1200....
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 08:28 AM |
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And VW etc are any better?? I very much doubt it (from people I know who had to return a 56 plate VW because it couldn't be fixed! even by the
main stealers) . Anything with a DMF can be expensive, as can injectors and so on. It is a matter of being lucky I reckon. If the car trundles on then
they are brilliant, some (whatever make) can cost a fortune.
I like the Rover idea, has a certain underdog appeal and what should be a good motor.
Oh, and avoid anything with a DPF fitted......(unless you are prepared to remove and recode the ecu)
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 09:17 AM |
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I have never heard of a DMF failure on a Rover 75/ZT and not only the diesel but all the petrol models excluding the V8 have them,Ford DMF
failures aren't as frequent as they once were.
On the Ford/Jaguar the main dealer only injector coding "feature" is a major potential issue particularly as injector leakage
issues are far from unkown on the Mondeo.
As for VW they are in demand from buyers and thus attract a price premium but their reputation is based on previous generation bullet proff models
that weren't so over complex as more recent models, VW are still good but it is finding a really sound one at the right price.
[Edited on 16/1/13 by britishtrident]
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Slimy38
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 09:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
As for VW they are in demand from buyers and thus attract a price premium but their reputation is based on previous generation bullet proff models
that weren't so over complex as more recent models,
Agreed, I'd much prefer a slightly older model that is 'run in' and proven. And in the realms of the OP's budget (3k) that
only allows older cars anyway.
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sdh2903
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 09:29 AM |
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The earlier vw 1.9 pd engine is the one to have, much more simple and durable than the 2.0 that replaced it. Just look on eBay at how many Ford Tdci
cars are for sale as spares or repair, as previously said injectors alone can be a small fortune to replace.
Unless the Mrs is doing over 15k a year then get a petrol.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 10:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
The earlier vw 1.9 pd engine is the one to have, much more simple and durable than the 2.0 that replaced it.
one of my mates has a 57 plate passat with the 1.9TD - its the old gen engine but with the new style varible vane turbo, at ~80k it decided to eat its
own turbo 
another mate got a 57 plate A4 2.0TD, it destroyed it whole bottom end at 85k and a week after getting all replaced with new parts ate its turbo too
both of these cars were looked after and serviced properly with all the right bits and oils
yet I know loads of folk with the old 1.9 TD (with the simple old fashoned turbos) that just won't die no matter how much the abuse them.....
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zetec
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 11:00 AM |
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This is why I buy petrol even though I do about 20K a year. My Focus does 40+ MPG and no horrors lurking under the bonnet, and with derv at a higher
price I bet my fuel bill is not too much more than on a diesel...and the heater gets hot within a few mins! 
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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morcus
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 05:43 PM |
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Anyone else noticed that there seem to be more cars under ten broken down on the motorway these days than older?
In your position I'd probably spend half the budget or less on what ever seemed best and keep the rest of the money to fix it but I can see how
it might be hard to convince your wife. My Dad had his car written off in November and gets the money next week and he wants to buy a Rover 800 for
£350 but my mum wants him to get a car newer or the same age as the one written off which means having much less choice and in alot of respects a
worse car (Last car was a 56 note that he felt was too small, budget would be about 3K).
Sticking to your guide lines though I'd say look at Skodas and Volvos but I'd like to Add the Peugeot 406 or 407 as you will get a
brilliant deal on either of these cars and they ride really well and they're very cheap. on Auto trader you can get late 406's and early
407 on 03-54 plates that match all you want from a car for just £1000 (From a Trader), spend some of the saving on a really thorough service.
Alot of people online always go on about French cars being terrible and falling apart but these don't seem to, and I've seen alot of
406's with 300K on the clock and still going fine.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 06:25 PM |
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In the market size and price range sector we are discussing the difference in trade market value between an immaculate lowish mileage petrol car
and an equivalent condition diesel is about £800 to ££1200. At auction in December I picked up a truly immaculate 60,000 mile 1.8 Rover 75
saloon for £1410 with all auction costs included, a diesel would cost nearer £2500.
How much saving a 2 litre diesel would show in fuel cost depends on annual mileage for a moderate mileage (less than 200 miles per week) user the
saving could be as low as £5 per week which is nothing but at 600+ miles per week the diesel is is much more attractive.
When you look at smaller petrol engines in Focus sized cars then comparing a 1.4 or even 1.6 petrol with a diesel model then the petrol wins.
In the longer term I would expect to se the road tax on diesels and the fuel duty on DERV to increase for environmental reason, and as secondhand
diesels with DPFs grow older slip further down the market expect the running cost benefits of running diesels to become less attractive.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/1/13 at 06:36 PM |
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Speaking of low mileage diesels this one has been kicking around the auction in Glasgow since last week ---- nobody is buying just now i would
expect to have about a £2300 reserve
http://www.intercitymotorauctions.co.uk/stock_new.aspx?lot=316&site=glasgow&salenumber=3155
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