Nickp
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 06:15 AM |
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Originally posted by daniel mason
glad its worked out in the end! wouldnt have been my choice but what do i know!
hows the monte carlo rebuild coming on?
Thanks Dan, yeah we've got there in the end and hopefully once it's set-up then Phil will have a pretty rapid and decent Westy. Hopefully
it'll be at Blyton in March.
I've gathered all the Monte bits now and can crack on now the Westy's off. With the head / cams I've got it should, in theory, have
a bit more poke than the Westy. But then it does have twice the weight to drag along.
Here's the finished engine-
And the car-
With its engine related 'cousin'-
[Edited on 6/11/13 by Nickp]
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dhutch
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 08:45 AM |
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Originally posted by Nickp
No probs, ta for the input. Others around the same money seem to be either Pinto or x-flow, which just doesn't do it for me (or him).
There are a lot of older westfeilds around with the pinto and x-flow in them still, I found the same when looking at around the 4-6k bracket, that and
very poorly build examples of the mk indy as at the time (5years ago) they where too new to come in under 4-6k.
After a while I came upon mine, with the 1.9 cvh in it, which was a little bit of a punt as there was no real history and no paperwork with it, just
'I bought it cheap from a fast fiesta to replace the previous 1.9 cvh which had gone bang' but it seemed to run well and I managed to get
it for what I still consider a barginous price of just under 4k.
Five years on, threats of dropping a blacktop into it aside (near direct fit to the type 9 box and ali belhousing, similar engine mounts, same
exhuast/intake location) the cvh is still going very well indeed so stays.
Who knows what I would have bought if not that one. I got two offers of redtop engined westy with blown manta boxes in them, but wasnt looking for a
project.
Daniel
[Edited on 7/11/2013 by dhutch]
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Nickp
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 09:18 AM |
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If it ain't broke don't fix it  The old CVH was never a classic engine but with the right bits will go pretty well in a '7'
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 11:43 AM |
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its a very easy upgrade from CVH to Zetec given the commonality between the two engines.
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Nickp
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| posted on 7/11/13 at 06:27 PM |
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How to gain hero points as a Dad?
Do the school-run in your mates Westy to get a few more miles on it
One happy / slightly windswept 9yr old-
Must've been slightly scary as he couldn't even see over the scuttle!! 
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TimC
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| posted on 7/11/13 at 06:58 PM |
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Despite the agro, I think it's a great car.
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Nickp
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| posted on 7/11/13 at 07:25 PM |
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Originally posted by TimC
Despite the agro, I think it's a great car.
Ta fella. It certainly looks the part and has a purposeful stance. It has the potential to be a great car but it depends if Phil has the time,
patience and inclination to get it there. I've a feeling that it'll be moved on eventually 
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Nickp
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| posted on 20/11/13 at 10:32 AM |
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Phil took the car to 'Torque Tune' in Notts yesterday for an initial set-up to get it run in. It was running mega rich so we thought it
best to get the fuelling right so as not to damage its 'new' engine. We chose this place as it's only 10 miles from his house which
probably saved him from hypothermia but mainly because it specialises in bike carbs / inj on both bikes and kit cars. Anyway, as suspected, it was way
rich especially low down. They rejetted the mains down from 195 to 160 and along with a few other tweeks got it running much cleaner and crisper
everywhere. Apparently the operator was well impressed with the engine and described it as a 'Monster' when it comes on cam, and much
better than the usual 'lumpy cammed' / 'bike carbed' Pintos he gets in They kept the revs down as it only had 100mls or so
under its belt and has std mineral oil in, but they did record a very respectable 150bhp at just 5.5krpm just as it was getting into its stride. I
reckon it's going to peak somewhere near 7krpm possibly more so it should make some decent numbers when let off its leash
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Nickp
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| posted on 20/11/13 at 06:07 PM |
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BTW- he's ditching the filter socks as they were clearly not flowing and richening the mixture, not good!! It's got rather long trumpets
on the R1 carbs so we're looking at this option from Jenvey, any comments? -
http://www.jenvey.co.uk/home/accessories/airhorns-filters-and-boxes/jenvey-dynamics/airbox-backplate-50mm-deep-abb2-50
http://www.jenvey.co.uk/home/accessories/airhorns-filters-and-boxes/jenvey-dynamics/air-filter-430x140x100-abf2-100
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/11/13 at 07:16 PM |
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^^ ITG ones are good and cheaper than those
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/itg-air-filters/itg-megaflow
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Nickp
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| posted on 20/11/13 at 07:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
^^ ITG ones are good and cheaper than those
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/itg-air-filters/itg-megaflow
Ta, but we'd need something like their carbon trumpet tray - https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/c4447 and at £99 that's double the price
of the Jenvey one, or am I missing something?
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mcerd1
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| posted on 21/11/13 at 08:48 AM |
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the ITG filters come in different heights up to 100mm internal
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/itg-filter-jc40-100-itg-jc40-100
(I'm assuming a JC40 be wide enough, but that depends on the spacing of your carbs)
they reckon you only need a min. 1/2" gap from the trumpet to the inside of the filter
the dimensions are here:
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/app/webroot/Technical/pdfs/itgmf1.pdf
if thats not enough you could fabricate your own deep backplate - how about using part of the R1's airbox ?
the R1 airbox just has 4 round holes in it:
these rubbers are glued into the holes and clamp onto the carb's - giving a small extra offset from the carb to the backplate 
obviously they fit over these standard rubbers quite well
but sorry I can't give you any sizes for these bits anymore - I sold the ones I had when I ended up with ZX9R carbs instead...
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Nickp
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| posted on 21/11/13 at 09:51 AM |
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Ta mate. I reckon his trumpets are at least 100mm long so that's why we're looking for a deeper base plate. If it was mine I'd be
having a go at making one possibly from an old R1 airbox, but it isn't mine so I'm just presenting him with options at the moment
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benedwards64
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| posted on 4/8/14 at 09:17 AM |
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Just to drag this thread up (again!) I thought I'd introduce myself as the new owner of this little Westy. Being friends with Phil (previous
owner) and Nick I have a pretty good idea as to what I'm getting into! The below is pretty much a cut and paste from another forum but should be
a good little intro...
How not to buy a car, vol. 17:
Drive 2 ½ hours north in an MR2 with a freshly built top-end in Friday evening traffic. Arrive c. 9pm, kick the tyres a bit and have some pizza. Have
a quick whistle-stop tour of the purchase (“That’s your windscreen-wiper switch. Don’t forget that one.”) and then head off at 10.30pm in a newly
purchased car you’ve never driven before, in the dark, in a fixed seat that doesn’t fit you, to Scunthorpe. Panic about the amount of fuel in the tank
(no gauge!), get lost in Scunthorpe and eventually get directions off a pair of very jealous chavs in MacDonald’s carpark. Place cover (pond-liner
and bungees, crude yet effective!) over car, check into hotel and collapse into bed.
Next day: sleep through alarm, miss breakfast and walk out of the hotel as it starts raining. Drive newly-purchased and still very alien car (with no
windscreen!) to Blyton park circuit in the rain: terrifying. Feel silly for organising Toyota trackday and then turning up in a British car with an
Italian engine, then gingerly head out onto a patchy damp track. Dodge rain storms, damp tracks, faster cars, slower cars (not many!) and eventually
decide that I should probably point my plastic nose-cone down the 180 miles to home. Rains: get wet. Sunny: dry off. This cycle repeated pretty much
all the way down South, until I came off the M40 onto the Oxford ring road into a truly biblical rainstorm. Never been more wet or more terrified in
my life, aquaplaning at 50mph whilst looking up into the wheelarches of passing lorries is definitely not the one! Arrive home, car into garage
and drip my soggy way straight into a hot bath.
Oh what fun
So there we have it, I’m now the owner of a very silly and fantastically fun little Westfield. It’s a great little car with enormous potential, and my
plans basically are to tinker with it, improve little bits here and there and generally enjoy it whist keeping a steady eye on the weather forecast
:lol:
The engine is a recently-rebuilt Fiat Lampredi 2-litre twin cam running R1 carbs, high compression pistons, high-lift cams, a Volumex head and plenty
of other tasty little bits and pieces. It also has ARBs front and rear (rare for a kit, I understand), a front wide track kit, Quaiffe LSD and a
digidash. We think that it was originally built as a racer or sprint car and then later converted and SVA’d for road use – the underlying build seems
to be pretty good but a lot of the cosmetic bits are a bit slap-dash (uneven front wheelarches, wonky numberplates and loose mirrors are a bit of a
clue). I think the wiring needs some attention as well as the temperature readouts seem to vary depending on how many electric things I have switched
on, and the suspension is clearly set up for track use so that’ll need some attention and setting up as well to make it a little more supple over
Oxfordshire’s finest back-roads. I may also look at a couple of other things to make it a little more friendly, such as swapping out the GRP seats,
sourcing a tonneau cover and maybe even fitting a windscreen if I get excitable :lol:
Having spanked all my spare money on a pile of stone and mortar most of this will have to wait for a while, so in the meantime I’ll be doing plenty of
local (sunny!) journeys in the westy to get used to its little ways and see if there’s anything else that needs attention. I’m already having to
completely re-calibrate my ideas of what are acceptable cornering speeds
A few phone pics will have to do for now until I get the internet at the new abode (much shouting at BT to come still, I imagine!)
A rare dry moment at Blyton:
Obligatory petrol station shot:
The mule with its stablemate!
After a quick ‘Monte Wash’
Sumptuous interior:
Wonk!
The family all together:
Yes, ramps necessary!
Mixing with the big kids at Homebase
Italy’s finest (and god it sounds good!):
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Nickp
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| posted on 4/8/14 at 09:30 AM |
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Welcome aboard Ben
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