britishtrident
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 03:40 PM |
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End of the road for diesel cars?
Following the latest supreme court judgement looks like diesels cars will be taxed off the road to reduce NOx and particulate pollution.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 03:50 PM |
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Shame it will also affect all modern diesels that use Adblue, which actually reduces NOx by 80-90%... 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 04:29 PM |
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I was reading something the other day that described how some scientists have managed to make a diesel-like fuel from atmospheric CO2 & solar
power - I wonder how the scare-mongers will deal with that when it becomes commercially viable! (if it does)
Linky
[Edited on 30/4/15 by David Jenkins]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 04:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I was reading something the other day that described how some scientists have managed to make a diesel-like fuel from atmospheric CO2 & solar
power - I wonder how the scare-mongers will deal with that when it becomes commercially viable! (if it does)
Linky
[Edited on 30/4/15 by David Jenkins]
The Fischer–Tropsch process was invented in the mid-1920s, so there's nothing really new here. Possibly some process improvements I guess.
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jacko
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 06:24 PM |
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Adblue is horrible stuff we use it at work it rots aluminium and electric cables and if you spill it on concrete it goes like crystals we call it
pig piss
jacko
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morcus
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 06:44 PM |
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I'm sure I read something in a car magazine a few years ago that too many cars were in the lower tax brackets and that we were going to have
changes anyway.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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obfripper
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 07:40 PM |
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They'll have to ban all the DI petrols to go with it, their particulate emissions are worse than the diesels, and are directly absorbed through
the skin due to being smaller than the diesel particulates, and also have high NOx levels when running lean stratified combustion.
Burning wood is to become a no-no with its particulate emissions accounting for over a third of worldwide particulate emissions.
In reality, there will be alot of industrial diesel equipment being retrofitted with adblue and particulate filter systems, a few old bangers taken
off the road sooner than expected, but don't expect the enviromental groups to highlight the woodburning emissions to the supreme court any time
soon!
A modern diesel with DPF and SCR setup has zero particulate emissions, and extremely low NOx and SO2, so will be unaffected by any of this, having a
barbecue is more likely to be banned first.
Dave
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snapper
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 09:43 PM |
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Well the BMW 330 M coupe I want to buy has not dropped in price
YET
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 30/4/15 at 10:23 PM |
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currently in London reducing the emissions of said London buses fitting SCR systems.
WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOX.
airplanes make more nox , as does electricity generation and heating peoples homes .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Slimy38
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| posted on 1/5/15 at 07:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
currently in London reducing the emissions of said London buses fitting SCR systems.
WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOX.
airplanes make more nox , as does electricity generation and heating peoples homes .
yep, but as always vehicles are easy targets... despite their impact being much smaller percentage-wise.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 1/5/15 at 08:40 AM |
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I've always wondered how cars with carbs do on NOx and particulates etc... but I never found any reliable figures
My old 106 barely registered on the CO and HC tests (0.1% and 3ppm) and it could do 65mpg on the motorway - not bad for a 1992 car with single choke
carb and 4 gears 
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femster87
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| posted on 1/5/15 at 08:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
currently in London reducing the emissions of said London buses fitting SCR systems.
WHAT A LOAD OF BOLLOX.
airplanes make more nox , as does electricity generation and heating peoples homes .
Thing is you can abate the NOx from combustion plants. Some of them run at levels significantly lower that what the EA sets. You cannot do much with
cars
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