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Bluemoon

posted on 7/11/16 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
Opions on Log cabin workshop/garage?

Hi All,

Anyone had experience of Log-cabin garages? Tempting as keen prices and quick to construct.

I need to put up a new garage/workshop at our new house. Idea is to put somthing up within permited development to avoid planning permission issues if possible.

Other options?

End aim is to house Kitcar pluss workshop...

Regards,

Dan

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Ugg10

posted on 7/11/16 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
My dad had a wood frame garage built, seems to be pretty good. Basically he organised a local builder to lay the concrete slab and two course wall surround to the wood frame builders spec (size and level), the wood frame guys then came in and put up the garage, wood frame, heavy duty wooden lap exterior and tiled roof. His is approx. 10' x 20' but iirc they did various sized and shapes with attached workshops. No idea of cost and could easily be insulated and dry lined.

I put up a log cabin in the garden and it was a right pain, particularly if you decide to treat each plank by hand before building !!!!

Hope this helps.





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nick205

posted on 7/11/16 at 11:59 AM Reply With Quote
Not bought/built a garage sized one, but as pert of some house alterations we're putting an 8' x 12' shed in the garden. Concrete slab already laid to accept the shed and the kits do seem to be better value than designing and building it yourself. As mentioned above if you can go for a concrete slab with brick/block course to sit the timber on then it keeps it off the floor and it should last better. A pitched and tiled roof also seems a better option than sheet timber and felt.






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Schrodinger

posted on 7/11/16 at 01:09 PM Reply With Quote
check to make sure that there is no article 4 restriction on your property meaning you have to apply for planning permission on any alteration that would normally fall under permitted development.





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JacksAvon

posted on 7/11/16 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
Had a builder put in a 150mm concrete slab and power float it, leaving myself 100mm all around

Just bought and built one of these, nice people to deal with.
See link below

https://www.quick-garden.co.uk/garage-wooden-600x600-44mm-36m.html?gclid=CjwKEAiA6YDBBRDwtpTQnYzx5lASJAC57ObMcAa2SysPFrOQeEKrd6SvgnveIu_py2O3HCLrHFmRk BoCMk7w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds





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SJ

posted on 7/11/16 at 01:18 PM Reply With Quote
I bought a timber garage off Ebay to be used as part shed part home office. It is pretty good, though I ended up putting Coroline corrugated sheets on the roof for a bit more weather proofing. Speed of erection was the main reason for going down this route as I didn't have time to build one properly as we had just moved into the house.

This was it: WOODEN GARAGE , WORKSHOP 10ft (3,03m) x 20ft ( 5,9m), 19mm T/G,PRESSURE TREATED

I'm in the process of extending the main garage from T&G timber and 4x2 which will be a lot more robust than the bought one, but it takes longer. The ones in the link Jacksavon posted look in a different league quality wise to the one I bought.

Permitted development for sheds and garages is pretty easy to comply with assuming there are no special restrictions on your property.

Stu

[Edited on 7/11/16 by SJ]

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bi22le

posted on 7/11/16 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
This is very topical as we may be building a workshop this year at the end of our garden. Something like a 30ftw x 15ftd, so a monster.

I like the idea of a log built, a nice 44mm one.

The concern I have though is that it will be a garage and need planning as I want to build close to the boundary.

Due to this i will probably go for air brick and cladding to make it look neat.





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JacksAvon

posted on 7/11/16 at 07:12 PM Reply With Quote
6m x 5m = 30m2 does not require planning permission. Anything over this will
You will have to go through Building Control.
Providing you are a meter from the boundary and don't intend to live it your local Council Building Control Department will issue you a waiver.





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SJ

posted on 8/11/16 at 02:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

6m x 5m = 30m2 does not require planning permission. Anything over this will



I think that is incorrect unless I am misreading things. The planning portal says:

No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.





https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/43/outbuildings

Stu

[Edited on 8/11/16 by SJ]

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Bluemoon

posted on 8/11/16 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote
i think there is a an internal floor limit for each building of 30m square but you can have more than one so long as your withnin the 50% limit..
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stevebubs

posted on 8/11/16 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
This is very topical as we may be building a workshop this year at the end of our garden. Something like a 30ftw x 15ftd, so a monster.

I like the idea of a log built, a nice 44mm one.

The concern I have though is that it will be a garage and need planning as I want to build close to the boundary.

Due to this i will probably go for air brick and cladding to make it look neat.


44mm at this sort of size will still lose heat at quite a rate... takes around 1KW to keep my 3.5mx2.5m cabin with 44mm walls above 16 at night in current temperatures and it has a 75mm insulated floor and 50mm insulated ceiling...

[Edited on 8/11/16 by stevebubs]

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stevebubs

posted on 8/11/16 at 05:03 PM Reply With Quote
From planning portal...

Planning Permission...

code:
Outbuildings are considered to be permitted development, not needing planning permission, subject to the following limits and conditions:

  • No outbuilding on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation.
  • Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
  • Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container  within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse.
  • No verandas, balconies or raised platforms.
  • No more than half the area of land around the "original house"* would be covered by additions or other buildings.
  • In National Parks, the Broads, Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty and World Heritage Sites the maximum area to be covered by buildings, enclosures, containers and pools more than 20 metres from house to be limited to 10 square metres.
  • On designated land* buildings, enclosures, containers and pools at the side of properties will require planning permission.
  • Within the curtilage of listed buildings any outbuilding will require planning permission



Building control...

code:
If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15m2 and contains NO sleeping accommodation.

If the floor area of the building is between 15m2 and 30m2, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building contains NO sleeping accommodation and is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.

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mark chandler

posted on 8/11/16 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
My shed, well little oak framed barn 3m X 5m has a concrete floor, dwarf walls and sits just under the maximum height allowed, it's level with the front of the house so did not need planning permission.

It has a clay tile roof (second hand) with scots pine cladding and a breathable barrier an 1" or so inside the cladding, everything stays nice and dry, even bare steel does not seem to rust.

Before that I had a 3m X 4m shed, quite shallow pitched roof with fake slates, no breathable membrane and anything bare metal inside it was covered in condensation every night.

Make sure you include a barrier!

[Edited on 8/11/16 by mark chandler]

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Hodor

posted on 10/11/16 at 12:15 AM Reply With Quote
I bought and built one of these, 3.5mx5.4m or thereabouts.

http://www.tigersheds.com/log-cabins/garages/

Built it up myself over a 3 day weekend. 2 people would have been easier but not impossible on your own.

Cracking garage, looks great and it is solid with the 44mm wood. If you do, get the clear preserver, keeps the wood looking natural.

No trouble with the company and good quality wood, fittings, instructions etc. Would (wood?) recommend.

They have sale on just now. In fact, they had a sale on the time I was buying, but it ended before I got round to pulling the trigger. I phoned them up and they were happy to honour the sale price, pretty decent.

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Bluemoon

posted on 13/11/16 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
Any photos?
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