baz-R
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 01:53 PM |
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Sellers saying V5 lost?
In the last few weeks I have been looking for a van/minibus/camper on the usual places ebay, gumtree and so on and noticed allot of sellers saying
that the V5 has been lost? Some sellers selling multiple cars and commercial vehicles all with the same statement!
Personally I think I would be very careful buying a vehicle with no V5/ new owners slip off V5
I'm going to assume that this is some loophole that the sellers are trying get around like tax avoidance or is it a scam? I
know on occasions that buying from auctions sometimes you only get a V5 copy.
Anyone able to shead any light on what is going on
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nick205
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 02:13 PM |
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Can't answer your question.
Having sold my share of cars privately I'd not consider selling one without the V5 present and correct. Surely you can contact the DVLA/VOSA
and get a replacement V5 document issued with the former one being cancelled as part of the process?
I'd accept (expect) there to be a fee for this, but again if you're selling a vehicle do things properly and have the right documentation
for the vehicle.
Have you contacted any of the sellers to ask why there's no V5?
I've recently had some dealings with the DVLA and found them to be quicker acting than expected. Probably worth asking them the same question.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 02:18 PM |
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I've lost V5's before, very easy and quick to get a copy so it's not a valid reason. Too many con artists out there to take any
risks at all.
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baz-R
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 02:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Can't answer your question.
Having sold my share of cars privately I'd not consider selling one without the V5 present and correct. Surely you can contact the DVLA/VOSA
and get a replacement V5 document issued with the former one being cancelled as part of the process?
I'd accept (expect) there to be a fee for this, but again if you're selling a vehicle do things properly and have the right documentation
for the vehicle.
Have you contacted any of the sellers to ask why there's no V5?
I've recently had some dealings with the DVLA and found them to be quicker acting than expected. Probably worth asking them the same question.
Yeah usually get the same response from the seller needs to be applied for or waiting for the dvla?
I remember 15 years back there was attempts to try and clamp down on people buying and selling too many cars to make unofficial income and the old V5
also changed and we got the back sheet slips with the new owners slip and trade slip so that the dvla can transfer the registration without the owner
count going up.
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nick205
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 02:52 PM |
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Seems fishy all round to me then.
I'd avoid getting tangled up in a visible issue and look for another vehicle with the right paperwork.
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taylormade100
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 03:09 PM |
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I think it might be that rather than wait for the DVLA to send the V5 back in their name they state the V5 is lost so they can try and sell the
vehicle straight away.
[Edited on 22/12/20 by taylormade100]
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 03:14 PM |
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Most likely auctioned vehicles that were repossessed and not UK registered, owner companies not bothering getting new v5 and auction buyer having
vehicle without it and in other country. They should be able to apply for one but probably difficult process as their name is not on the registration.
Same here in belgium, huge amount of cars being auctioned without paperwork, proper auctioneers deliver a certificate of ownership and a lost
paperwork form issued by police, but many auctioneers don't bother and it's up to the buyer to arrange.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 04:32 PM |
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Most sellers I've seen with 'no V5' are ones that are buying the vehicles cheap with the hope of cleaning them up and punting them
on for a profit. They're turning them round faster than the paperwork can come through so they don't do it.
They do sometimes have the 'sellers slip', which I'm not sure is actually any better. As others have said, I just avoid them.
I'd prefer to get a vehicle from someone who's had the vehicle for more than ten minutes. Or from a dealer where I can get the warranty.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 06:07 PM |
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Just be aware there has been a large number of motorhomes and campers stolen recently
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 06:55 PM |
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I suspect they are trying to make it look like a private sale, so they have no warrantee comeback
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snapper
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 07:13 PM |
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You would want to get a receipt for the vehicle with registration and VIN number plus sellers details, you can then apply for the V5.
The V5 identifies the main user of the vehicle not the owner as in the case of hire purchase and leasing
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 22/12/20 at 09:25 PM |
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Walk away
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russbost
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| posted on 23/12/20 at 09:19 AM |
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It automatically raises questions & means you can't legally drive the vehicle away as you can't tax it without a V5 or the green slip
from a V5.
With campers it could be so you can't see the taxation class as loads get converted from vans, but don't comply with necessary window
requirements etc. to get reclassified as a camper rather than a van, hence don't qualify for the cheaper road tax - can be difficuylt to insure
as well as when insurers check on the database it will come up as a van when you are trying to insure a camper
If it looks too cheap, it's probably dodgy & almost certainly better to walk away
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 25/12/20 at 11:48 AM |
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Just been reading on the Totalkitcar website that DVLA now have an online service update , get a vehicle logbook (V5c) basically you get a V5
instantly so there is no longer any excuse for the seller to say it’s missing. Cost is £25
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perksy
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| posted on 25/12/20 at 04:26 PM |
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There will always be another vehicle that won't raise any doubts or concerns, unlike this one...
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