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jacko

posted on 30/7/24 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
Street lamps

It seems the street lamps are getting worse day by day or is it night by night
The lighting gang has just changed the lamps down our street and they are crap no light at all yes they are turn on
If you are aloud to park on a night under these lamps I think you should have parking lamps on your car now
Rant over
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nick205

posted on 31/7/24 at 08:06 AM Reply With Quote
I've observed the same.

1. Councils making cost saving efforts?
2. Councils/government reducing light pollution (go somewhere properly dark to see the difference)?
3. New houses round our way have solar paneled street light installations as well (backed up by mains I'm guessing)?

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coyoteboy

posted on 31/7/24 at 02:08 PM Reply With Quote
No, they're not crap here, they're all bloody LED floodlights that light up your bedroom window and the rest of earth by reflecting off the moon they're so bright.

I hate street lights, they're utterly antisocial, have been shown not to make things safer in multiple studies, and are just there to placate the masses who think light=security.

Technically you have reflectors front and rear for parking but in a lot of situations you already legally should use parking lights.

[Edited on 31/7/2024 by coyoteboy]

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nick205

posted on 31/7/24 at 02:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
No, they're not crap here, they're all bloody LED floodlights that light up your bedroom window and the rest of earth by reflecting off the moon they're so bright.

I hate street lights, they're utterly antisocial, have been shown not to make things safer in multiple studies, and are just there to placate the masses who think light=security.

Technically you have reflectors front and rear for parking but in a lot of situations you already legally should use parking lights.

[Edited on 31/7/2024 by coyoteboy]



Fair point that light doesn't necessarily = safety!

I believe some councils even switch street lights off in the wee small hours (most likely cost saving is the ultimate benefit for them).

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jacko

posted on 31/7/24 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
No, they're not crap here, they're all bloody LED floodlights that light up your bedroom window and the rest of earth by reflecting off the moon they're so bright.

I hate street lights, they're utterly antisocial, have been shown not to make things safer in multiple studies, and are just there to placate the masses who think light=security.

Technically you have reflectors front and rear for parking but in a lot of situations you already legally should use parking lights.

[Edited on 31/7/2024 by coyoteboy]


The lamps must be different too the ones fitted near us the old ones used to light my drive on a night
But very poor lighting now
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SteveWalker

posted on 31/7/24 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
No, they're not crap here, they're all bloody LED floodlights that light up your bedroom window and the rest of earth by reflecting off the moon they're so bright.

I hate street lights, they're utterly antisocial, have been shown not to make things safer in multiple studies, and are just there to placate the masses who think light=security.

Technically you have reflectors front and rear for parking but in a lot of situations you already legally should use parking lights.

[Edited on 31/7/2024 by coyoteboy]



Fair point that light doesn't necessarily = safety!

I believe some councils even switch street lights off in the wee small hours (most likely cost saving is the ultimate benefit for them).


Due to a lack of street lighting, I came very close to losing an eye. I walked home, on the pavement and right into the end of a low-hanging branch, that luckily missed my eye by 1/2". Street lighting would have allowed me to see it before walking into it.

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coyoteboy

posted on 1/8/24 at 09:09 AM Reply With Quote
Carry a torch, don't expect the world to burn megawatts and cause massive light pollution just in case people are walking by. [mildly serious, but appreciate you can't always carry a torch - just a bit tired of society's endless drive toward lack of individual responsibility]
And then blame the land owner for not properly maintaining their tree. Back when we had massive baseloads to burn from coal power stations street lighting made sense. Hell it could now if it was presence-sensing, but having it always on, everywhere, is just absolute abject wastage and pollution and makes places less secure. There have been countless documentaries where burglars were asked if street lighting put them off, and they said no it just lit their way, sensor-based lighting highlights their unexpected presence and put them off.

[Edited on 1/8/2024 by coyoteboy]

[Edited on 1/8/2024 by coyoteboy]

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Mr Whippy

posted on 1/8/24 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
I grew up in the middle of nowhere where there were no streetlights and it was utterly dark at night, not even the glow of a town. Apart from the odd walking into the car to find it, I don't recall any issues. I hate street lights, I miss seeing the stars properly and could see the Northern lights on many nights, if I had a big switch I'd turn them all off.

It's about time the street lights have motion sensors and only come on when there is someone or a vehicle is near them, not only would this save heaps of electricity it would make it very obvious something is there. LED's should be able to deal with this very easily. I live near a new housing estate where the streetlights don't even go out during the day! What nonsense.





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SteveWalker

posted on 1/8/24 at 02:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
Carry a torch, don't expect the world to burn megawatts and cause massive light pollution just in case people are walking by. [mildly serious, but appreciate you can't always carry a torch - just a bit tired of society's endless drive toward lack of individual responsibility]
And then blame the land owner for not properly maintaining their tree. Back when we had massive baseloads to burn from coal power stations street lighting made sense. Hell it could now if it was presence-sensing, but having it always on, everywhere, is just absolute abject wastage and pollution and makes places less secure. There have been countless documentaries where burglars were asked if street lighting put them off, and they said no it just lit their way, sensor-based lighting highlights their unexpected presence and put them off.

[Edited on 1/8/2024 by coyoteboy]

[Edited on 1/8/2024 by coyoteboy]


a) it was on the pavement of a residential street - which did have street lights, but this part was badly shaded and b) the landowner was the council, with a tree having branches sticking to the pavement from a grass verge between road and pavement, right at eye height.

I would not expect to have to carry a torch in a built-up area.

[Edited on 1/8/24 by SteveWalker]

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