tul214
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 08:59 PM |
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Which 4x4 @£5/6k?
All,
The wife has bought a horse and needs something farmyard!
We only want to spend £5/6k but it needs to be able to pull 2 horses.
I have looked at discos but I don't like the look of them.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mark
1.6 Raw Super6 sold
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:03 PM |
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Defender 90
Then you can nick it for off road fun days 
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rayward
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:04 PM |
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Jeep Cherokee/Grand Cherokee
should get a nice one for that money
Ray
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coozer
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:07 PM |
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Nissan Patrol, true off roader, luxuriuos inside.
Rings the bells in both camps..
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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tomprescott
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:11 PM |
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Or you could try:
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A bird in the hand....
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boggle
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:11 PM |
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range rover or defender 90...
or discovery 2
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:16 PM |
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one other thing on the defender 90 is that is just like a kit car, parts are cheap and EVERYTHING just unbolts and is easy to fix
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tul214
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:18 PM |
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We drove a £6k defender and I can't see the attraction.
Disco 2....look old fashion?
Cherokee...might have potential. What is the 2.8CRD like?
Nissan Patrol...tooooo big.
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deanwelch
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:21 PM |
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+1 for defender not pretty or flash but easy and cheep to fix and it does what it says on the tin..............
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hicost blade
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:24 PM |
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L200 all the way, chuck hey in the back too 
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mookaloid
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:25 PM |
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Isuzu trooper 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:40 PM |
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Nissan Patrol...tooooo big.
Have you towed a pair of large horses with horse box..... No such thing as too big.......
They knock the one ton pickup about.
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nick205
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 09:47 PM |
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I read that as what 4x4 for £56k
In which case it would have to be a RR Sport in black wid da bling wheels 
@ £5-6k then I'd be hankering for a Defender 90 (with sensible wheels). Especialy if you're towing muddy horses and associated stuff.
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Charlie_Zetec
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 10:04 PM |
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I would agree that the defender is best suited for towing, and the chassis and engines are like adult meccano and easily changed. I've even
been helping a mate of mine change the chassis for a galvanised one weekend just gone.
However, I find them to be very much an agricultural vehicle. There's not a great deal of room inside, especially for the drivers right arm!
If you want to take more than one person (in addition to driver) and gear in the car then you;ll need a 110.
I recently purchased a P38 Range Rover diesel and thoroughly enjoy it. I wouldn't say it's as good as the Defender for towing, but
it's much more comfortable and more of a road-goer. However, I spent 3 months looking for the right one, and then you've got issues to
consider such as the air suspension and other common faults that wouldn't occur in a more basic vehicle.
I considered a Discovery and also looked at Isuzu Troopers when I was in my "unsure stage", but decided that the RR was definately the
best all round for what I wanted in terms of towing and daily use.
My 2p's worth over....
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity!
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bj928
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 10:19 PM |
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my choice would be a merc ml430, lpg, don't know what the towing ability it but it will have the power with the 4.3 v8, i had the e430 and that
pulled like a train, nice and comfy as well, and its a merc, for the money your looking at it should have all the toys on it as well, discos and
defenders are to agricultural for me, yse they will pull, but i like a bit of comfort, so ML430 or range rover v8 4.6, or v6 3.5 24v shogun, if you
want an odd ball, i had a delica 2.8 td for a while, basicly a shogun but a full 7 seat people carrier body, take the seats out and it was like a
transit!!!!
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bj928
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 10:21 PM |
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and the big chyslers have normally got mercedes running gear, i know the 300 is an E class merc underneath
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franky
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 10:30 PM |
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Simple Nissan patrol or Toyota landcruiser. Make landrovers look like ladas.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 29/3/10 at 11:53 PM |
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Disco 2 TD5, we paid £5k for our 35k mile 2002 model last January. Feels a bit like a tractor and tows as well as one. Will drag 1600kgs of car
trailer without feeling it, even off muddy fields regularly encountered at hillclimbs. I would imagine most of the agricultural seperate chassis 4x4s
would be pretty similar though.
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Canada EH!
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 12:16 AM |
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Don't know about over there, I have a 4.0 litre Cherokee with 235,000 kms, doesn't burn oil, tows 3000lb boat and trailer without
difficulty.
My son has a Grand Cherokee with 245,000kms, runs well, no major problems, also has a 4.0 litre six petrol.
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eddie99
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 12:20 AM |
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Another vote for a Defender 90. When i need one, i'll get one! Yes bit impractical and horrible to drive but for some reason, i think they look
cool and have always wanted one!
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morcus
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 01:27 AM |
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I wouldn't reckomend a Merc ML, a few of my mates had them (well their folks, who for some reason let their kids drive them) and they all (3
different cars) fell to peices and were constantly being put back together.
If you don't want a Land Rover, your best bet has to be some thing big and Japanese.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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tul214
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 04:51 AM |
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Thanks Guys.
I drove a Defender because of all of the reasons above but this has to be the wifes everyday car and the 90's at that price are just too old and
agricultural. I dare say that if I bought a £15k Td5 version it might look a bit different.
My dad has a ML, the 350 petrol and loves it but the build quality is nowhere near my E-class and they all seem to have been to the moon and back.
I will keep looking
Mark
1.6 Raw Super6 sold
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mad4x4
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 06:16 AM |
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Wouldn;t touch a Disco With a Crappy stick.
Bought a disco II about 18 months ago. Biggest piece of crap ever. Would not pull it's self at 60 let alone a trailer.
Was a 52 Plate 2.5 TD AUTO ES fully loaded.... Lights running boards etc.
Had sold a perfectly good P38 Range Rover for it and haded the disco so much sold it 6 moths later (for great loss) and bought a Ford Ranger Pick up -
FAR BETTER
So P38 Range Rover or Defender (avoid TD5 engine) or L200 or Ford Ranger etc.
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
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MK9R
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 06:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Wouldn;t touch a Disco With a Crappy stick.
Bought a disco II about 18 months ago. Biggest piece of crap ever. Would not pull it's self at 60 let alone a trailer.
Was a 52 Plate 2.5 TD AUTO ES fully loaded.... Lights running boards etc.
Had sold a perfectly good P38 Range Rover for it and haded the disco so much sold it 6 moths later (for great loss) and bought a Ford Ranger Pick up -
FAR BETTER
So P38 Range Rover or Defender (avoid TD5 engine) or L200 or Ford Ranger etc.
Sounds like you had injector loom, EGR or breathing problems if it wouldn't do 60mph.
We have a disco 2 TD5 ES premium and we love it!! The wife was a bit dubious to star with as she thought it would be too big (she uses it every day),
but finds it far easier to drive than the mondeo estate. Granted i woulddn't want to do my 100 mile a day commute in it, and if we lived in a
city we wouldn't like (or even have) it, but as a family lugging machine, massive towing capability and every day car it bloody great. Yes there
are niggles with them, and yes there are better built machines out there, but you live with it as its a LR, don't ask me why but you just do .
The LR do seem to have some character unlike most of the Jap ones.
Just do consider the towing weight, if you are towing 2 horses and a trailer, you'll need something rated up to 3 tonnes towing weight, and if
you actually look into it there aren't many 4x4's out there that can do that, LR are the heaviest rated ones on the road (there maybe a
couple more just can't think of them to hand). I looked into this when i was considering buying and american toy hauler
[Edited on 30/3/10 by MK9R]
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scootz
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| posted on 30/3/10 at 07:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MK9R
Do consider the towing weight, if you are towing 2 horses and a trailer, you'll need something rated up to 3 tonnes towing weight, and if you
actually look into it there aren't many 4x4's out there that can do that, LR are the heaviest rated ones on the road (there maybe a couple
more just can't think of them to hand). I looked into this when i was considering buying and american toy hauler
What I was about to add! A lot of folk forget about the legalities surrounding towing weights and tow more than they should. Boring, Boring,
Boring... I know, but get yourself involved in a serious accident (I sincerely hope you don't) and the sh*t WILL hit the fan if you're
overweight!
You'll be surprised at the differences in towing capacities amongst the usual suspects. LR's are pretty much King in this area!
It's Evolution Baby!
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