omega0684
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 10:30 PM |
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Green Stuff pads
Where is the best place to buy green stuff pads, i tried two local car parts places yesterday and they both said they had stopped dealing with EBC?
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 11:48 PM |
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what about the ebc website ?
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ReMan
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 06:15 AM |
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Spooky!
As part of my pre Stoneleigh strip and rebuild of the front suspension this weekend I thought I'd buy and fit some greenstuff as a bit of an
upgrade as the cars been a bit neglected.
Anyway, I did a search on here and the opinions seemed so mixed about them and theres nothing wrong particularly with my cheapo pads that I spent the
money on beer instead!
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Myke 2463
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 06:34 AM |
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Green Pads ?
The majority of Westfield owners in the WSCC prefer Mintex 1144 as they get better results.
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coozer
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 07:24 AM |
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http://www.brakes4u.co.uk/
Just got some yellow stuff pads off these guys..
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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ChrisW
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 07:47 AM |
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I run EBC greens on my XR2, never had a problem with them. They're certainly a huge improvement over the stock pads, as I proved to myself
whilst having a 'play' with an SLK on a route with lots of wide stretches with roundabouts in between.
I'd stuck a set of stock pads in as a temporary fix due to needing a set in a hurry (stuck caliper). The difference in fade temperature was
huge. I could never get the greens to overheat on that car, which weighed about 750kg and made 150bhp. I doubt you'd be able to do it in a kit
either, unless on a track maybe.
Chris
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RazMan
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 07:58 AM |
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+1 for Mintex - the best IMO
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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iank
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 08:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
I run EBC greens on my XR2, never had a problem with them. They're certainly a huge improvement over the stock pads, as I proved to myself
whilst having a 'play' with an SLK on a route with lots of wide stretches with roundabouts in between.
I believe they (EBC Greens) need higher temps to work well, which isn't a problem in tin top being driven enthusiastically, but a lot harder to
achieve in a 500kg kitcar, especially where people have 'upgraded' to vented disks.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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prawnabie
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 10:54 AM |
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I use black suff in mine - theres a guy on the bay selling them for about £25 a set
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Fozzie
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 11:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
+1 for Mintex - the best IMO
+2 ... not a fan of 'green stuff'/ebc ....
as Ian said, mucho heat needed for them to work correctly.... hard to achieve in a '7' ....
When replacing pads, please read the instruction leaflet, and adhere to their bedding in procedure...
Fozzie 
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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mcerd1
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 11:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
I believe they (EBC Greens) need higher temps to work well
I managed to 'cook' a set on my old tin-top when I tried them - I didn't think they were all that much better than the ferodo
'premier' ones I normally used and they only lasted me ~7k  (this is on a 954cc 106 ! )
also tried a set of the black (normal) ones - they were realy crap - over heated all the time, didn't grip well and wore out in no time 
I've just got a set of the bog std. mintex ones on the focus at the moment - they only grip as well as the ferodo ones but they seem to be
lasting longer so far (haven't tried M1114's yet)
on the plus side the EBC's have that brake in coating to bed them in faster which did seem to work (I've got a set of EBC greens for the
dax, but I'll probably try something else once they're done)
all IMHO of course
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Fozzie
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 11:55 AM |
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Whilst I personally recommend the Mintex for road use.....
I must confess that I have changed to these:-
Ferodo DS2500
They are so good they are now also on the VX220T ...
However, I cannot emphasise strongly enough to read and adhere to the instruction leaflet, if any of you decide to try them...
Fozzie 
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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ChrisW
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
I believe they (EBC Greens) need higher temps to work well, which isn't a problem in tin top being driven enthusiastically, but a lot harder to
achieve in a 500kg kitcar, especially where people have 'upgraded' to vented disks.
Urban myth I'm afraid, probably started by Mintex lol. The greens work straight from cold, yellows need a bit of heat in them, and reds are for
full on racing.
Not sure where the blacks fit in the temperature scale.
I run yellows in my MR2 due to it being a bit heavier (1200kg) and more powerful (>200bhp). Doesn't take long to get them working nicely.
Chris
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greenwood03
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 12:21 PM |
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erm, no expert on this subject, but funnily enough was just talking to a company that supplies EBC products. As a rough rule of thumb the
'ladder' is
black, green, red, THEN yellow, Blue.
Yellow being trackday oriented for high performance cars......
oh, and apparently 'heat' doesn't really come into the equation - ie/ will the discs get hot enough for the various different colour
grades to work effectively, its more about resistance to fade. The suggestion was that for my car yellows would prob be ideal ( currently got reds)
[Edited on 26/4/10 by greenwood03]
http://southernkitcars.comIntermarque Club for owners in the South/South East
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Lightning
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 12:22 PM |
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Ive got red stuff on the Chimaera. Good when hot, scarey when cold
Steve
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Fozzie
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 12:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
quote:
Originally posted by iank
I believe they (EBC Greens) need higher temps to work well, which isn't a problem in tin top being driven enthusiastically, but a lot harder to
achieve in a 500kg kitcar, especially where people have 'upgraded' to vented disks.
Urban myth I'm afraid, probably started by Mintex lol...................Chris
Sorry Boss got to disagree with you on that one.....
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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coozer
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 12:28 PM |
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Reason I went for the yellows is
1. the Mintex's squealed like there's no tomorrow.
2. The bumf with the yellows says "excellent initial bite from cold"
And, I spoke to the EBC tech at the UK centre and he recommended them for my powerlites, as have a few racy type folk on this forum.
Time will tell, I've done 45 miles on them so far and they sequel as much as the 1144's
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Fozzie
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 12:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Reason I went for the yellows is
1. the Mintex's squealed like there's no tomorrow.
2. The bumf with the yellows says "excellent initial bite from cold"
And, I spoke to the EBC tech at the UK centre and he recommended them for my powerlites, as have a few racy type folk on this forum.
Time will tell, I've done 45 miles on them so far and they sequel as much as the 1144's
Yep I found the Mintex squeaked too .... really annoying, but they suited me until I found the Ferodo DS2500's.
Our cars are all different....and it really is a case of finding what suits your particular set-up.....
Also worth bearing in mind that if you do talk to EBC, they will recommend one of their products, and not one of the 'oppositions'....
Brakes are a critical part of our (me and other half's) business, but the cars and type of cars we deal with are nothing like a '7'
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Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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coozer
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 01:41 PM |
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What I meant was the EBC recommended the yellow ones over the green or red ones for my car and Powerlites
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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RazMan
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 05:08 PM |
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My Mintex pads squealed like a stuck pig until I bought some anti-squeal pads on eBay. They simply stick on the back of the pads and are slightly
rubbery - they just take out any slight movement of the pads in the caliper and work a treat.
I tried everything in my Powerlites including Greenstuff and Wilwood's own 'smart' pads - both of these had bad cold performance but
fairly good when warmed up - the Mintex 1144s work very, very well hot or cold.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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ReMan
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 08:41 PM |
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Hmm,
From what i can make out on EBC's spec from the website, to all intent GREEN should give better (the best) braking per pedal effort, for any car
at COLD.
How they then continue to perform at high temp is also at the lower end , hence the up p to 200hp/light cars.
the other colours, vary at cold but have better performans and resitance to FADE tt HIGH temps/continued use
This shoul magew GREEN a hot contender for our NON servo brakes to give easier braking under normal conditions, but experience here was not
supporting this enough, hence my hangover
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mcerd1
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 11:35 PM |
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I found that the greens I had on the tin-top had a good bite from cold, but 4 or 5 enthusiastic uses of the middle pedal was enough to have smoke
pouring off them (and thats on a car that weighs 760kg, all be it with quite small brakes)
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JonnyS
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| posted on 27/4/10 at 07:03 AM |
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I have Green Stuff on the fronts of mine. I've never been a fan of them but they were on the car so...
If you've seen how fast Richi Jenkins and his brother drove the car before I bought it you'll know they must work
On track they're fantastic, after half a lap they'll pull your face off. They are being used in tandem with grooved discs as well.
On the road they're a bit poor when cold, but I'm happy with the trade off.
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