Andi
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 10:59 AM |
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Will this work? (poll)
Quite interesting for the tin top.
Apologies if its been on here before
thingy
[Edited on 1/5/10 by Andi]
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UncleFista
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 11:17 AM |
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It takes more energy to generate the hydrogen than you can make through burning it.
It'll create more drag on your alternator for no measurable benefit...
Snake oil.......
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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mookaloid
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 11:24 AM |
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if it did anything at all don't you think that car manufacturers would be fitting them as standard?
But you knew that anyway didn't you 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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l0rd
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 11:35 AM |
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What about if we make a pcb that interacts with the consumption indicator that says that you are doing 200+ miles to the gallon.
off to the drawing board 
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NigeEss
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 11:40 AM |
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And also, where does it get the hydrogen from ?
I imagine it would have to get it from atmospheric moisture so quantities would be small.
Even if there were appreciable quantities the ecu would have to be mapped to suit or you'd
simply cock up the AFR.
[Edited on 1/5/10 by NigeEss]
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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GeoffT
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 11:54 AM |
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Amazing thing is that seven people have actually bought one...... They'll probably now convince themselves that they actually work.
Unless of course the fundamental laws of physics have changed since last time we looked
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Stott
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 12:30 PM |
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yeah they're great, I've got one, and combined with my fuel ionising magnets, my electric turbo and my inlet turbulance creator thingy, my
car now makes it's own diesel, I sell it back to shell............
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02GF74
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 12:35 PM |
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I voted O DBSFS.
long time since I did chemisty but even back then it took a lot more energy to extract hydrogen from water than you get from burnng hydrogen.
don't become mug no. 8.
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Davey D
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 12:43 PM |
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I cant believe hes tried to scare people with comparing a fuel tank full of hydrogen to an H Bomb 
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Andi
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 01:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Davey D
I cant believe hes tried to scare people with comparing a fuel tank full of hydrogen to an H Bomb
Yes I liked that little touch
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A1
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 01:05 PM |
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I cant imagine it working well, cause unless its really effiient youll lose more than you gain.
much better to safe fuel costs by using red diesel. 
not that i do...never owned a diesel.
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Simon
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 01:11 PM |
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This hows it quite nicely, just a shame the quantities would quite be enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyDdEuQafn4
ATB
Simon
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luke_stephenson
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 01:41 PM |
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in my opinion the only way this could work would be as a kerrs system, using electricty generated from deceleration to generate the hydrogen. using
the cars electrical power simply puts more load on the alternator and hence the engine.
it is not possible to get something for nothing!
even this answer is still hypothetical, you would effect the cars fuelling by putting hydrogen in the cylinders i would have thought.
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tomprescott
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 02:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by luke_stephenson
in my opinion the only way this could work would be as a kerrs system, using electricty generated from deceleration to generate the hydrogen. using
the cars electrical power simply puts more load on the alternator and hence the engine.
it is not possible to get something for nothing!
even this answer is still hypothetical, you would effect the cars fuelling by putting hydrogen in the cylinders i would have thought.
+1, unless he has a small perpetual motion machine inside that little tube then he's talking nutsack, the electrical connections would have to
be colder than atmosphere (as if they are hotter - which they almost always are - energy is being lost, just as if it makes a noise). Good way to make
a couple hundred quid from thick people.
I wonder if he gives out a card with each unit just like Collinson got in his '85 paper - sorry - in the throws of revision and it's
creeping across into everyday thought now. Worrying.
A bird in the hand....
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BenB
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:09 PM |
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Wow. Generating energy out of nowhere! Amazing. Just wait until the energy companies get onto that.
What a load of twaddle.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:13 PM |
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If you define "work" as making an eBay seller lots of money, then yes it will work very well.
£95 for a few plumbing fittings that won't actually do anything useful; there's a sucker born every minute.
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Thurbs
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:22 PM |
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Fools gold !!!
No, I'm sure one of the motoring programmes or consumer shows looked into it. The physics are ok but hydrogen produced is in such tiny
quantities.
You don't get something for nothing
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Litemoth
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:50 PM |
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I think he's been blowing on those bagpipes of his too hard
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JoelP
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 05:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Thurbs
No, I'm sure one of the motoring programmes or consumer shows looked into it. The physics are ok but hydrogen produced is in such tiny
quantities.
You don't get something for nothing
the physics most certainly isnt ok
google 'conservation of energy'.
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oldtimer
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 05:46 PM |
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I used a hydrogen generator in the past and even a small one used quite some juice from the mains, and that was just to get a tiny flame. It also
looked nothing like what he's selling.......mind you he has some rather tasty illuminated, coloured gear knobs for under a fiver!
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iti_uk
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 06:17 PM |
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There's no option for "LOL Just NO!!!!!!!!"
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daviep
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 06:19 PM |
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Now I would vote "total bollocks" but a friend of mine has tried a homemade version of this on his TDI Transporter and claims he is
getting better consumption.
I have ridiculed him loudly and frequently but he's not normaly prone to talking nonsense, which makes me think there maybe something going on
that I don't understand.
About 6 years ago same guy started LPG converting diesels (gas and diesel at the same time) and saying he was getting better power and fuel
consumption. I also rubbished this claim reasoning that other people would be doing the same if it was effective. Seems I was wrong as it is now
relatively common. He believes the small amount of hydrogen produced helps to catalyse the diesel burn.
So in conclusion I still think it's rubbish
Davie
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 06:59 PM |
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A few years ago I was looking at getting my diesel on an LGP conversion, only no b***er does it unless it's on wagons, or boats..
I've got plans somewhere for a home-made one, it really looks like it does have an effect..
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