Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 11:44 AM |
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New project idea - thoughts
Hi Guys,
Just thought i share my next idea with you guys, ive been thinking about it quite alot, despite i wont actually do it until the current car is
finished obviously!
Basically the idea is to take a mk3 Capri, and transplant the engine, box and running gear from a jag s type 3.0. The engine from standard will give
240 BHP, but ill be running ITBs, new engine management new exhaust etc so will hopefully get a bit more from it. By running gear i will use the diff,
hubs shafts etc and make my own new lighter subframe both front and rear to optimise the geometry (will obviously do some reading up on this before i
just jump in and do it).
This will give me a wider track than the original capri and this is perfect as i will then put some fat arches over it. I will also lose all the
plastic bumper strips and everyhting, clean it all up, get some projector headlightsm some nice LED rear lights and genrally moderize it but without
losing the general capri shape etc (as i love it!).
Interior wise i want it to be comfortable and practical so it can be used everyday still so some sporty but comfrotable seating.
Obviously exact details are still a long way off but i cant stop thinking about doing this.
Whats everyones thoughts?
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 11:54 AM |
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Go for it, modernising old cars is great fun, sod the rivet counting anoracks. I did an MGB with Zetec and bike carbs, otherwise standard looking but
with aftermarket suspension, leaving the boy racers standing is great fun.
I'd do the mechanics 1st, run it over the summer, then do the bodywork.
We need plenty of pictures, and if you decide not to do it you will spend the rest of your life wishing you had 
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 11:58 AM |
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sounds cool
glad your going to swap the running gear as that big engine in a capri with the capri's rear axle would be scary
Would probaly look nice if not too OTT bodywork wise unless you want to make it look like a race car but alot of the lines of the capri get lost once
it reaches that level
I notice there is some new mags in the shops for retro cars, I try to stay away from them for my Bluebirds safety!
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Humbug
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:00 PM |
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I like the idea if you can get a clean enough Capri shell to start with!
Pete - what was involved in the MGB- Zetec project? I could quite fancy one of them but I am slightly put off by the fact that even the newest
original MGB shell would be 35 years old or so by now, and I have no skills/interest in have to weld a body or get it patched up.
Also, what suspension mods did you do? I have heard that NG do/did some useful suspension kits for their MG-based cars that can also be used on the
MGs themselves
Cheers
Simon
oooh! Just seen some nasty looking "Before" pics of MG tinworm in your archive... then some nice clean and shiny mended ones!
[Edited on 18.02.2011 by Humbug]
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:24 PM |
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wow encouraging so far... was kind of hoping some one would say its a bad idea, would stop me searching for capris and crashed s types!
With regards to bodywork the extend will mainly be losing the plastic bumpers and smooting all the holes out on the bumper, mabye a slight front lip.
Rear end again just smoothed out with twin exhausts done clean to the bodywork. Then just wide arches. Basicallly my inspiration started when going
through the retro power website looking at their projects. The MK1 capri they did looks fantastic and a great read through (NS Dev if youre reading
you guys did an amazing job, looks stunning!)
and for some reason the only engine that makes sense to me in that car is a V6. Thinking of keeping it ford i looked into the duratec V6s, but the
ones in fords didnt really seem up to it. Then more searching showed the s type had the 3 liter version with even more power standard than the fords.
Looking on the bay s types with crash damage fetch between 1-2k, so perfect, can sell all i dont need to recoup costs.
God i need to put this enthusiasm in to the current car first! ha
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:32 PM |
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I had a red/orange Mk1 capri, well good looking car but you do need to look for rust as they were never very good in that respect
Sounds a great project. I like the fact that the older cars are getting a look in now, for a while is was just shopping trolleys with hidious body
kits that you'd see
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:35 PM |
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Ford did build a Mercury Capri, which was a MK1 with a Mustang V8 in it, a 302CI IIRC, now a replica of one of those would be cool.
BTW the Mk3 bumpers are steel with clip on plastic ends, so easy to weld into the body for a subtle look.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Ford did build a Mercury Capri, which was a MK1 with a Mustang V8 in it, a 302CI IIRC, now a replica of one of those would be cool.
Rewind that, it was a South Africa only model, tagged Piranha, it was a 302 V8 though.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:51 PM |
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is this the car?
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:54 PM |
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That looks nice, although for some reason a v8 just doesn't seem right in a capri! V6 is the only option for me. I do like the body on that
though. Simple wide arches, and I'm almost certain on minilites aswell
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 12:59 PM |
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When I was a sprog me dad, who worked for Ford, had one of the very first Capris, a 1600 GT with the XLR pack. Black bonnet and all. CWC225G. I
remember this car because of another Capri.
The neighbor came by and asked my dad if he could try the car. I, 11 years old and short trousers, went with him. Now my dad was a reasonable driver.
Safe and steady. The neighbor was a complete nutter. I remember him getting just over 100mph out of it. I was a very quiet passenger.
On his return to our house he gave the keys back to my dad and said words along the lines of "Not bad but a bit gutless"
Nest week he went to Crayford Conversions and commisioned a 5 litre Mustang engined Capri. Red metallic and it sounded bloody gorgeous every time he
drove past our house which was at least twice a day.
For that reason I've always had a seriously soft spot for them.......
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 01:03 PM |
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I actually have a very good condition low mileage 2.8 capri injection engine looking for a good home...
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 01:06 PM |
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If the locost was finished is be considering, unfortunately can't be spending much money at the minute
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 01:07 PM |
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Must admit I love V8s, if the E Type's straight six ever goes pop, its getting a USA or Audi V8, cany justify it now though as the previous
owner spent £11K on a rebuild
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 01:22 PM |
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Don't get me wrong I love v8s but in the right cars, some cars scream out for a big v8 to be fitted, others not so much
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designer
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 02:17 PM |
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In my youth I have a Cologne Capri Replica with a 3 litre V6.
It was awesome!!!
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Fred W B
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 02:23 PM |
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Thats not a Piranha.......
This is a Piranha - race version, road cars had standard fenders
Cheers
Fred W B
 
21 st ford
You can do it quickly. You can do it cheap. You can do it right. – Pick any two.
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 02:28 PM |
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now that is a tasty looking car!
I can tell by the replys that there is a lot of love for capris which im glad about! Just hope if i do start this project at some point i can do it
justice!
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 02:46 PM |
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Are you getting those subliminal messages yet... VVVVvvvvv 8 VVVVVvvvv 8
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 04:24 PM |
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Sorry but my mind is set on a v6! And bare in mind it'll be at least mid/end of summer when and if it happens
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big_wasa
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 04:30 PM |
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I love the idea. What puts me of an older car is the rust you have to sort first. My next project will have a log book before I start.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 04:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
I love the idea. What puts me of an older car is the rust you have to sort first. My next project will have a log book before I start.
Tell me about it, must get some pics loaded up of the Jag with no rear panels on or boot floor, started with bubbling arches, and a few frayed joints.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 04:54 PM |
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Sounds good, I think if you was doing this in the USA then you would need a V8 but I don't think the Capri over here was really meant for the
full "muscle car" treatment
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les g
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 05:56 PM |
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Just google
perana.org
for the full story on the perana v6 and v8 capris
cheers les g
i even managed not to mention that some one wroote piranha (fish )when they meant perana
sorry childish moment
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Miks15
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| posted on 18/2/11 at 06:22 PM |
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I'm not too bothered about a bit of rust, i will try to get a good shell originally but all the arches will be getting cut back and widened so
don't mind a bit of rust around the wings. It will be getting completely stripped back so it will all be accessible to sort out.
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