RickRick
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 08:30 AM |
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Pug 807 HDi problems
Brother in laws pug 807 has been telling him to refil the diesel addative tank for a few months, and he's ignored it.
last week it lost all power, and started chuffing white smoke out.
I've had a look, and it pointed to the particle filter being blocked, so took that off, and 2 pints of engine oil poured out, the filters in the
process of being cleaned now, but the oil came from the turbo bearings, which has gone away to be rebuilt
before it all goes back together has anyone got any suggestions to the cause of turbo failure, it looks like it's not had an oil change for
quite some time, so that's the favorite, but he's already skint so i'd hate to miss something and it go again, i'll also fill
the diesel addative back up and tell the ecu it's been filled
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paulf
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 08:44 AM |
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My brothers Citroen C8 did almost exactly the same thing at about 80,000 miles .He had the filter off and cleaned out etc and ended up with a new
turbo being fitted, it seems quite a common fault , maybe its a design feature.I told him to get rid of the particle filter as that is always getting
blocked and causing it to go into limp mode it could be removed and the sensor inputs modded to fool the ECU or maybe even turned off with the right
code reader.
Paul
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RickRick
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 08:46 AM |
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done some reading, i'll also be suggesting getting rid once repaired, seems a snapped cam belt is best fixed with a new engine, and the
alternator pully can fail somehow, and take out the cam belt in the process, also injectors seem almost impossible to remove, and cost £300 each for
replacmeants
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mcerd1
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 09:10 AM |
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the boss's C8 had a cam belt go with less than 50k on the clock (about 2 year old I think) - it took 3 months of arguments just to get 80% of
the new engine cost from citroen 
end result: he's got a galaxy now...
[Edited on 26/5/2011 by mcerd1]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 11:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RickRick
done some reading, i'll also be suggesting getting rid once repaired, seems a snapped cam belt is best fixed with a new engine, and the
alternator pully can fail somehow, and take out the cam belt in the process, also injectors seem almost impossible to remove, and cost £300 each for
replacmeants
Welcome to the world of the common rail diesel. People have this strange idea that they are cheap to run...
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 12:51 PM |
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70 to 80 k mile mark seems to be the point at the latest diesels fail, particulate filters are going to cost a lot of money to maintain and
extended oil change intervals and turbo diesels was always going to end in tears.
Best advice to anyone running a modern diesel is to avoid turbo failures change the oil every 5,000 to 6,000 miles and use only fully synthetic
and allow the engine to idle for a full minute before switching off.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 12:56 PM |
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If it were n the same situation I would sell it quick and spend 1k buying a 100,00 mile Rover 75 Diesel estate, slightly older diesel technology
and no known major problems --- better, simpler more reliable version of the 4 pot BMW diesel than BMW or LandRover used.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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paulf
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| posted on 26/5/11 at 04:11 PM |
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Yes mine has now done 235,000 miles and still runs very well, its a pity the clutches are not to good but that also seems to be a common problem with
most newer cars having a stupid dual mass flywheel and internal slave cylinder.
Paul
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Originally posted by britishtrident
If it were n the same situation I would sell it quick and spend 1k buying a 100,00 mile Rover 75 Diesel estate, slightly older diesel technology
and no known major problems --- better, simpler more reliable version of the 4 pot BMW diesel than BMW or LandRover used.
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