morcus
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posted on 16/12/12 at 04:48 PM |
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Is putting note on cars Vandalism?
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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westf27
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posted on 16/12/12 at 04:54 PM |
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Probably if you write it with a screwdriver
could well be if the wiper fell off in your hand whilst leaving the note,nothing would surprise me
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matt_claydon
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posted on 16/12/12 at 04:57 PM |
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Some background?
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NigeEss
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posted on 16/12/12 at 05:05 PM |
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Nope.
I have left many a note for the assh0les who park in stupid places and if they have really
annoyed me I've written the note on the windscreen in permanent black marker !!
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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morcus
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posted on 16/12/12 at 05:09 PM |
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This is mostly a hyperthetical but if it makes a difference, a car in a public place and not doing anything illegal or stupid.
If it does make a difference, when would it be vandalism, and when would it not be?
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Dangle_kt
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posted on 16/12/12 at 05:12 PM |
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I would assume when damage is done - a paper note does no damage else them bloomin flyers under your wiper at the supermarket would have been sued by
everyone going.
If someone is tryin to make out it is vandelism then I'd converse only via notes stuck to my ass from then on, just to prove what they are
being.
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cliftyhanger
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posted on 16/12/12 at 05:12 PM |
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lets put it this way. The police are unlikely to want to get involved if you put a note under somebodies wiper. If you supegleu something to the
windscreen it may be different.
Or are you asking if somebody puts a parking charge notice on a car??
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BigFaceDave
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posted on 16/12/12 at 05:19 PM |
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I'm fairly certain if you accidentally damage someone's car and their not around isn't it a legal requirement to leave a note?
Therefore it can't be vandalism can it?
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Slimy38
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posted on 16/12/12 at 05:30 PM |
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We used to have trouble with illegal parking on our work car park (private land), so security used to stick A4 paper signs to the drivers window. And
by 'stick', I mean with something that has the consistency and stickiness of snot. Even if they got the A4 page off, the glass would be
pretty messed up.
Never got anyone complaining, and we never saw the cars again.
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jps
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posted on 16/12/12 at 06:08 PM |
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What normal people call 'vandalism' the police refer to as 'criminal damage'. The definition states that permanent damage must
be caused, eg spraying shaving foam onto a car bonnet isn't 'criminal damage' as it can be washed off easily, won't mark the
surface. Throwing a tin of paint across a car bonnet is an offence though, it can't be easily rectified.
Whether or not offences are recorded is to an extent down to discretion of officers though, which probably explains why this year where i live the
number of'criminal damage' offences recorded has fallen by a third...
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matt_claydon
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posted on 16/12/12 at 06:10 PM |
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I'm just confused by the question, and by the 2 people who have so far said 'yes'! How can something that doesn't cause any
damage be vandalism?
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robinj66
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posted on 16/12/12 at 06:44 PM |
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Criminal Damage includes "non-permanent" damage such as graffiti. Basically, if "expense of inconvenience" is involved in
putting the matter right then the offence has been made out. Even deleting a computer program which can be replaced can constitute crim damage.
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snapper
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posted on 16/12/12 at 07:22 PM |
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Permenant and malicious damage
Something like writing on a car with permenant marker would be considered an offence
A note or a flyer would not
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scootz
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posted on 16/12/12 at 07:27 PM |
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No idea about England and Wales, but in Scotland... definitely not!
It's Evolution Baby!
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morcus
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posted on 16/12/12 at 07:31 PM |
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Thanks for the replies, the answer seems to be almost unanimous.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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scudderfish
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posted on 16/12/12 at 07:55 PM |
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Why are you asking?
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britishtrident
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posted on 16/12/12 at 08:45 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Slimy38
We used to have trouble with illegal parking on our work car park (private land), so security used to stick A4 paper signs to the drivers window. And
by 'stick', I mean with something that has the consistency and stickiness of snot. Even if they got the A4 page off, the glass would be
pretty messed up.
Never got anyone complaining, and we never saw the cars again.
Obstructing the drivers vision is asking to get sued if they have an accident --- but rear side widows are fair game
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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scootz
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posted on 16/12/12 at 09:05 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by britishtrident
Obstructing the drivers vision is asking to get sued if they have an accident...
On what basis? It's not like someone has surreptitiously sabotaged your vehicle... you know before you drive off if your view is obstructed!
It's the drivers responsibility to make sure that the car is fit for the road, so you either clean the affected area until it's no longer
a problem... or don't drive!
It's Evolution Baby!
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snakebelly
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posted on 16/12/12 at 09:49 PM |
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So who's car did you leave a note on and why?
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morcus
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posted on 16/12/12 at 09:55 PM |
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I've not done anything to any one, I was trying to prove a point with someone else, though of course he doesn't accept a Locost builders
poll.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Ninehigh
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posted on 16/12/12 at 09:59 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by morcus
I've not done anything to any one, I was trying to prove a point with someone else, though of course he doesn't accept a Locost builders
poll.
Maybe they should ask the police then
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morcus
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posted on 16/12/12 at 10:06 PM |
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We settled it another way...
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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BigFaceDave
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posted on 16/12/12 at 10:12 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by morcus
We settled it another way...
On a more serious note according to google the definition of vandalism is "Action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or
private property"
So Seeing as a note on a windscreen cant destruct or damage a car in my mind its simple, No putting a note on a windscreen isnt vandalism. P.S. do
they not know that LCB word is final!
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omega 24 v6
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posted on 16/12/12 at 11:36 PM |
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rock paper scissors lizard spock???
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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Peteff
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posted on 17/12/12 at 09:23 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by omega 24 v6
rock paper scissors lizard spock???
Can you explain the rules to that please ?
Sheldon's explanation.Here.
[Edited on 17/12/12 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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