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jollygreengiant

posted on 24/3/13 at 08:31 AM Reply With Quote
F1 Possible spoilers but not by me

Oh dear, was that wishful thinking by Hamilton.





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daniel mason

posted on 24/3/13 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
memory faliure. it was quite funny
still think he could win this yet






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jollygreengiant

posted on 24/3/13 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
OOOOpps, I bet Hamilton's glad he DIDN'T call there for a pit stop. :O





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maccmike

posted on 24/3/13 at 09:48 AM Reply With Quote
hehehe poor sod
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daniel mason

posted on 24/3/13 at 09:53 AM Reply With Quote
plenty of friction in the RBR garage. not happy at all. im hoping for a punch up






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jollygreengiant

posted on 24/3/13 at 09:54 AM Reply With Quote
Oh to be a fly on the wall of the debrief rooms of Red bull and Mercedes.





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maccmike

posted on 24/3/13 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
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scootz

posted on 24/3/13 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
Pretty bad form from Vettel! Still, if you want to be the best, then I guess you have to be a ruthless b*stard!

Poor Jenson, if he didn't have bad luck, then he would have none...





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scootz

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:01 AM Reply With Quote
Get torn in there Mark! Tell the world how it is!





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karlak

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:02 AM Reply With Quote
oooh, very frosty post race interview





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daniel mason

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:03 AM Reply With Quote
if i was weber id be wanting some answers






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scootz

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
I think he'll get his answers! He's called out RB on a matter of public knowledge... their PR is far too slick not to side with Mark.

Although, as I write that Horner is talking about 'both' racers misbehaving. Man up Horner and just refer solely to your golden-boy!





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scootz

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:14 AM Reply With Quote
... and he doesn't know what Webber meant when he said that Seb will get the 'usual protection'. Spineless worm!





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Wheels244

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:41 AM Reply With Quote
What's the betting this is Mark's last year with Red Bull
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TheGiantTribble

posted on 24/3/13 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
Liked J Herbert's comment 'we know what he means'

and yes we do

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jollygreengiant

posted on 24/3/13 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
I notice that on the 'Official F1' site team and driver quotes by the Red Bull Racing team are conspicuous by their absence.




Edit bit.

Reading other post race quote sites, I suspect that Webber will DEFINITELY consider his options in future even to the extent that IF things repeat themselves then their might even be an accident due to Vettel's 'poor' over taking maneuvers. Or, at least, that will be the line that Webber would take in front of the stewards afterwards.

JMHO.

ESPN possibly has best lot of articles ESPN linky
then Planet F1 Planet F1 linky

[Edited on 24/3/13 by jollygreengiant]





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Westy1994

posted on 24/3/13 at 01:19 PM Reply With Quote
Not only did he disregard the teams orders, he then went onto say ( in the post race interview) he never knew about them in the first place ?, that's odd... Of all the team members in RBR, he was the only one who did not know?, I can see how the tea lady might not know, but a driver....? Yet again he has shown his lack of maturity in obeying orders, if that was in any other job, he would be sacked for that. I hope Mark does not make any rash decisions, he is a good driver and plays by the rules, it's not his fault his so called 'team mate' doesn't.
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jollygreengiant

posted on 24/3/13 at 01:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Westy1994
Not only did he disregard the teams orders, he then went onto say ( in the post race interview) he never knew about them in the first place ?, that's odd... Of all the team members in RBR, he was the only one who did not know?, I can see how the tea lady might not know, but a driver....? Yet again he has shown his lack of maturity in obeying orders, if that was in any other job, he would be sacked for that. I hope Mark does not make any rash decisions, he is a good driver and plays by the rules, it's not his fault his so called 'team mate' doesn't.


Pulled off of the 'F1' site now they have something up. :-

"Q: Wasn't there a call that you should stay in P2?
V: That is correct, but I didn't mean to ignore the call - otherwise why would I take so much risk to pass him?

Q: Then why did you?
SV: Because I messed up? I guess also the team wasn't too happy with what I did today and I will try to explain it later. I did get the message, but no action followed because I misunderstood. In the past in such a situation we tended to fight, but these days with the tyre situation - not knowing how long they would last - it was an extremely big risk that could have resulted in both of us being out of the race and not finishing 1-2. Fights like that are huge risks for the tyres these days - we both could have ruined them within two to three laps. I put myself above this decision today, but I didn't mean too."

Tells you ALL you need to know about Vettel.





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Westy1994

posted on 24/3/13 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote
It does yes, as Mr Brundle often says 'There is no 'I' in team' . Whether you agree with team rules or not, the fact is they are in place and they are there for a reason. I am afraid that Mr Vettel spells team with an 'I' in it.

ETA.

He can say anything he likes post race, say sorry till the cows come home if he likes, it wont change the race result though will it, all he wanted to do was to win at all costs, and thats fine if you are club racing and its your car, but its not is it.

[Edited on 24/3/13 by Westy1994]

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morcus

posted on 24/3/13 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
What happened with Hamilton and Rossberg just behind really shows up just how aweful the whole RB thing was, I was kind of hoping he'd crash out to punish him for his Hubris. I also get the impression that if he'd overtaken like that against another team he could be in for a penalty.

Noone else seems to have said it so I will, who's the moron at Ferrari that thought Alonso could complete laps with his wing falling off?

I really hate this whole split rights thing, I can't go on the internet all day till I've seen the race.





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scootz

posted on 24/3/13 at 06:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheGiantTribble
Liked J Herbert's comment 'we know what he means'

and yes we do



Neither did the Sky producer... he was cut away from almost immediately!





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JoelP

posted on 24/3/13 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
Vettels decision was no big issue to me. He decided to ignore a team order - so what? He obviously thinks he is too important to sack, and guess what? He is. Red Bull need him as much as he needs them, and maybe more so as it seems top drivers do sometimes manage to do ok at another team. Look at mclaren, they havent had such luck replacing their 'golden boy', as perez seems to be as much a damp fart as i expected. So im sure webber feels put out, but thats motor racing for you. Maybe one day karma will come back for vettel, but again, thats life.

And yes, ferraris decision to keep alonso out does seem (with hindsight) to be incredibly dangerous. They obviously thought they could manage enough laps to get him out on slicks, but that does seem rather wishful. If the wing could survive the loadings with one support, then they would have made it like that in the first place... Maybe the FIA will penalise them for risk taking, but i rather suspect not.






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Daddylonglegs

posted on 24/3/13 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
Well, sorry to harp on, but I still stand by my comments in my thread.





It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......

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Vindi_andy

posted on 25/3/13 at 02:22 PM Reply With Quote
If it wouldnt damage the team results badly they should put the reserve driver in for one race so Vettel doesnt get any points. Just to illlustrate no one person is bigger than the team. Fining him will have very little effect IMHO

I understand that to be a driver you need to be single minded etc but he has been on the receiving end of team orders often enough so should follow them when the shoe is on the other foot. As has been said if it were a normal job, if someone disobeyed a direct instruction they would have got a severe reprimand i.e. written warning or dismissed

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Westy1994

posted on 25/3/13 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
Not by me, but a pic that is doing the rounds......

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