TimC
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 10:51 AM |
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Bedford CF1 Engine Transplant - suggestions
Long story short:
We have (at work) a fairly swanky-looking ex-Ice Cream van that we use for promotional activity and events.
The current Perkins diesel is sh**ed so we need to decide what to do.
I'm pretty anti-diesel in this case as the cabin is so poorly insulated that the roar of diesel means I'll need to send drivers our with
ear defenders which isn't very safe - or cool.
The best that the garage have come up with thus far is buying another CF with the 2.3 petrol. There's one on eBay which has done 85k pulling a
heavy motor home body. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
I was initially thinking Zetec and have since wondered about 8v Vauxhall. Is there anything that would mate to the 4-speed dogleg ZF?
It won't do mega miles but the odd trip to London or Nottingham from Bristol is desirable. Thoughts welcome.
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scutter
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 10:56 AM |
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How about Ford 2.9 V6 Engine 2.9 ford lump?
ATB Dan.
The less I worked, the more i liked it.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 11:10 AM |
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The Vaxhall Slant 4 SOHC 2.3 was a rough running old load of unreliable .... that gobbled fuel at an alarming rate.
ISTR the 4 speed used a Vauxhall gearbox.
The Opel Blitz & CF II used Opel Asconca engines
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Nickp
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 11:13 AM |
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Or what about a complete V6 donor with a family link?
VAUXHALL OMEGA ESTATE 2.5 V6 CDX 2000 ( NEW INFO )
Or if the ice cream is melting and you need to get there faster 
Vauxhall Omega 3.0 Litre MV6 X Reg 2000
[Edited on 21/11/15 by Nickp]
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minibull
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 11:26 AM |
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Lotus twincam ? The later Elite,Esprit version. That was based on the Vauxhall engine. Getting old now and always a bit delicate but turbo version
should make for a pretty fast ice cream van 
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Nickp
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 11:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by minibull
Lotus twincam ? The later Elite,Esprit version. That was based on the Vauxhall engine. Getting old now and always a bit delicate but turbo version
should make for a pretty fast ice cream van
Could potentially bolt up to the existing box but it won't be a cheap option 
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gremlin1234
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 12:21 PM |
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if it ever goes to London, ensure it meets the emissions regulations, virtually all within the m25 is a LEZ low emissions zone. (or pay the very high
daily rate!)
(reason enough to make it petrol! )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_low_emission_zone
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hizzi
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 12:35 PM |
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petrol pinto engine and box out of a transit would be a shout. or diesel out transit late ldv
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coozer
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 12:50 PM |
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Rover V8 sounds like a good idea for a low mileage tug.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 02:06 PM |
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The Rover v8 was a fairly common figment but these days there are smaller and better v8s ,, how about a Lexus lump mated to a six speed box? 6th gear
might come in handy as the diff ratio is likely to be very low.
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blakep82
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 03:17 PM |
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Vauxhall 2 litre ecotec might do it?
X20xev. Used in late 90s Astras, vectras, omegas ect
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Andi
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 06:08 PM |
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I bought an old CF before.
It had a vauxhall magnum 2.3 in it. Did not do very much to the gallon and had a miniature gear lever right near the back of the drivers seat.
Used it to get the band around the country in and so has many fine memories for me.
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 06:29 PM |
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Just had a friend round who used to drag race a CF. Had a tuned Daimler V8 in it, used to keep up with a 911 up to 60, so should be adequate......
Though sourcing a daimler V8 may be tricky.
I guess simple is good, so a zetec mated to a transit type mt75??
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HowardB
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| posted on 21/11/15 at 07:03 PM |
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What about the midengine transit version that they had on TG.. jag engine?
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again  and goes zoom)
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spaximus
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| posted on 22/11/15 at 10:41 AM |
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If it is being used as a commercial vehicle, ie loaded, then the 2.0 petrol diesel or petrol from a Transit is the way to go. Easy conversion.
Many of those suggested will work badly as a loaded vehicle needs a heavy commercial type flywheel otherwise they tend to bog a little pulling away.
That's why the Rover V8 has been used before and works as the two ton car it normally pulls also has a heavy flywheel.
The Rover is much harder to fit but does sound very good.
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