christim
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 05:41 PM |
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Edd China leaving Wheeler Dealers
He's off apparently  Can't see the show carrying on much longer without him, the main reason I & others I know watched was for the
actual mechanic work...and that's the bit the new company want to cut?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IB15T1LYiY
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chrisxr2
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 06:14 PM |
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Completely agree, for me, Ed was and is the show.
Life moves pretty fast, if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
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monkeyarms
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 06:34 PM |
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Mikes reply
http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/mike-brewer-speaks-shock-edd-china-departure/131783
Lots been said about this, good luck to both of them. They have given us a great tv show over the years.
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snapper
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 07:59 PM |
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Sounds like the Americans have shot themselves in the foot by not understanding (or caring about) the audience.
For Ed to leave at the top is a brace move but probably the right one as the new series could be a bit like Top Gear Mk 2 and we know how that ended.
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I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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benchmark51
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 08:05 PM |
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Don't worry, I think Chris Evans is available!
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chillis
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 09:07 PM |
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Not exactly a surprise if you have been a follower of the show. Since they started making the shows in the US the quality and content went down in my
opinion and the show was more about entertainment than content- (typical american brain dead rubbish.)
Discovery have been on a mission to cut costs after wasting all that money buying olympics coverage for Eurosport to show in countries whose national
carriers showed the olympics for free - DOH! Mythbusters, Deadliest catch and wheeler dealers are just three of many casualties.
Can't really blame Sky for not wanting to pay discovery $40million per year for outdated shows, endless repeats, and poor quality
'modern' shows - red necks in Alaska, fake gold miners and people brewing illegal spirits (promoting crime discovery thats very public
spirited - pun intended)
Discovery have too many channels and their content is spread too thinly. They need to lose some channels and consolidate on providing the good quality
content they built their paqst reputation on. -They've made their world too big LOL
Edd has done the right thing - keeping his integrety intact. For that he retains my respect.
I'm sure he will be back on our TV's soon and what ever it is it'll be worth watching.
Never under estimate the ingenuity of an idiot!
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nick205
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 09:07 PM |
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It's a shame indeed.
Mike I can take or leave, but I did watch the show for Edd's mechanic input. Scripted...yes and no seized bolts either, but OK for me.
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christim
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 10:21 PM |
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I'm the same, I can take or leave Mike Brewer, though not a hater like a lot of people seem to be of him.
For me too the show went downhill when they started importing fancy rare cars and doing them up. Great to see, but I liked the earlier series where
they did up cars anyone could get their hands on...no reason why someone today couldnt get inspired by the show and go out to buy an old triumph, land
rover, mini, bmw, golf, etc, etc. But then, an imported Bel-air? Lamborghini? Etc? Great to see these rare classics being restored, but it moved away
from the "this is what we did, now you can go in your garage and do the same" format.
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hearbear
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| posted on 24/3/17 at 11:34 PM |
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That's another thing the yanks have ruined just hope they don't buy all our chocolate company's as destroy them also. 😉
Oops to late.
3.9Ltr SSC Stylus should be fun
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craig1410
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| posted on 25/3/17 at 01:03 AM |
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Looks like I'm in the minority by welcoming the switch from Edd to Ant Anstead (that was quite funny, my spell checker tried to change
'Edd' to 'End' and 'Anstead' to 'Instead' )
Ant is a really knowledgable car restorer and you may have seen him already on 'For the Love of Cars' with Philip Glenister. He's
also been on a few other car programs and comes across really well.
No disrespect to Edd but I felt the format of WD had become a bit stale and Edd wasn't great in front of the camera IMHO. Ant is equally capable
technically (more so I'd say) and is much more natural in front of the camera.
Anyway, I think we should give Ant a chance and see how it works out. He's really likeable and definitely knows his stuff. Try to imagine
yourself in his shoes as a fellow petrol-head before criticising him. He's quite active on Twitter if you want to get to know him a bit better.
@AntAnstead
[Edited on 25/3/2017 by craig1410]
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JC
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| posted on 25/3/17 at 06:50 AM |
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I agree about Ant, he's quite good. However, the new production team are changing the format of the show as, to paraphrase Edd, 'the
detailed mechanical bits in the garage that everyone watched were too expensive to make'. This was what made the show good. Now, much like Top
Gear in the immediate post-Clarkson days, there is always a chance that what they come up with might be better.............
Edd says he will be putting out more content on his YouTube channel now though 
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craig1410
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| posted on 25/3/17 at 08:00 AM |
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Yeah I had seen Edd's video about format changes but I'll reserve judgement until I see the result. Like I said above, I think the current
format is needing a bit of a revamp. It's not as if the detailed mechanical sequences with Edd were particularly sophisticated and often just
seemed to be a way to show off (advertise) a piece of equipment that most of us could never justify having.
Everyone was up in arms when the old trio left top gear but I'd say now the new top gear has finally found a team who make the grand tour
irrelevant. Hopefully the same will happen here.
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morcus
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| posted on 25/3/17 at 10:20 PM |
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I saw this the other day and my first thought was "They still make Wheeler Dealers?". like others said it was much better when it was cars
you could possibly buy and things an amateur had some chance of doing (And before every car got a full respray and was then sold at a massive loss
without even counting labour).
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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SteveWallace
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| posted on 26/3/17 at 10:53 AM |
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I think that Wheeler Dealers has had its day. Not because it wasn't interesting, but because there are only so many times that you can watch Ed
diagnose that the track rod ends are worn out and need replacing. I learnt a lot from the show when I was a complete novice in the early stages of
building my car, so I thank them for that.
Unfortunately, there was no way that they could sustain just doing up old cars that you could pick up from "an internet auction site" or
Auto Trader without repeating makes and models, so inevitably they had to move to more exotic varieties that are out of the price range of mere
mortals or are as rare as hens teeth. Part of the appeal was the nostalgia of seeing them work on cars that were around when I was younger.
I used to plan to watch it and never missed an episode, however, I tend to only watch now if I'm at a loose end or stumble across a particularly
interesting episode.
For me, the best bit was always watching Ed doing the repairs, not the bits that were farmed out or seeing how good a very expensive spray job could
be.
Maybe Ant will find a new angle that will regain the interest from people like me, but I'm finding it difficult to see what that might be
"I know every nut and bolt and cog in that car, I built it myself" - The Prisoner, 1967
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/3/17 at 09:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JC
to paraphrase Edd, 'the detailed mechanical bits in the garage that everyone watched were too expensive to make'. This was what made the
show good.
how expensive can it be to put up a camera, microphone and some lights in the same garage?
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craig1410
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| posted on 26/3/17 at 09:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by JC
to paraphrase Edd, 'the detailed mechanical bits in the garage that everyone watched were too expensive to make'. This was what made the
show good.
how expensive can it be to put up a camera, microphone and some lights in the same garage?
Perhaps the costs came from the fact the camera crew probably had to hang around for hours to capture the various stages of a particular repair. Also,
it's a bit tricky sometimes trying to get good footage of dirty oily bits and probably required quite a few takes. So it's bad enough
having to pay for the host/mechanic but when you also have to pay for a multi-person camera crew plus have a 2nd pair of hands around (good old Paul)
to help remove the occasional exhaust or axle, then the costs probably mount up.
I don't know how many of you watch Car SOS but I really like that program, largely because of the chemistry between Tim and Fuzz. I also think
the whole premise of rescuing a project which means more than is typical to a fellow car enthusiast, is quite compelling. The show is a nice mix of
entertainment and education and usually revolves around a nice storyline with great characters. Did anyone see the Volvo P1800 episode with Sir Roger
Moore making a cameo appearance? That was ace!
Anyway, let's hope they find a way to update WD without breaking it.
Anyone know when we are likely to see the first episode with the new team?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 26/3/17 at 09:53 PM |
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I agree about Car SOS - when I first saw the programme name in the listings I thought it was another stupid USA production. But then I actually saw
an episode... The presenters are good, not too much obvious playing up to the camera (though there is some), and the basic idea of the programme is
good.
Even my wife will watch it, purely as entertainment!
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craig1410
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| posted on 26/3/17 at 09:57 PM |
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Yeah same here, it's one of the few car programs my wife actually enjoys!
[Edited on 26/3/2017 by craig1410]
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hkp57
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| posted on 27/3/17 at 03:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Yeah same here, it's one of the few car programs my wife actually enjoys!
[Edited on 26/3/2017 by craig1410]
The early stuff from that show was good but the later stuff got annoying with the "Tim must get a huge discount" or blag this and blag
that got somewhat tiresome but the formula worked.
Real people getting something done for them. Some would question some of the people rewarded as they clearly were from families with sufficient means
to do it themselves. Or were they funding some of the budget?
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Irony
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| posted on 27/3/17 at 12:27 PM |
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The problem I have with Car SOS is the same as the problem I have with Wheeler Dealers. I find Fuzz Townsend and Edd China the backbone of the show
and really worth watching. The the non-mechanic presenter pops up and talks crap for a bit. I think maybe Fuzz and China should start there own
show.
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craig1410
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| posted on 27/3/17 at 12:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Yeah same here, it's one of the few car programs my wife actually enjoys!
[Edited on 26/3/2017 by craig1410]
The early stuff from that show was good but the later stuff got annoying with the "Tim must get a huge discount" or blag this and blag
that got somewhat tiresome but the formula worked.
Real people getting something done for them. Some would question some of the people rewarded as they clearly were from families with sufficient means
to do it themselves. Or were they funding some of the budget?
To be honest I don't believe the show has anything to do with whether the owner of the car has the means with which to restore the car or not.
In fact, having an interesting car in your garage in need of restoration would tend to suggest a certain amount of disposable income. Usually the
storyline is more along the lines of some sort of health problem or accident which has prevented the completion of the car and these guys are there to
rescue what would in all likelihood become a scrapper.
In terms of the economics of the show, I expect they make a certain amount of income from the TV show viewings plus I would expect some of the
companies featured doing elements of the restoration probably give up their resources in return for some implicit advertising. It's possible
that some sort of contract is also drawn up with the owner (or their family) to recover some portion of the sale price of the car if it ever sold on
but I wouldn't be at all surprised if that wasn't the case.
[Edited on 27/3/2017 by craig1410]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 27/3/17 at 05:00 PM |
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The only thing I have against Edd China is that he peddles the Terraclean snake oil crap.
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steve m
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| posted on 27/3/17 at 05:17 PM |
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"The non-mechanic presenter pops up and talks crap for a bit. I think maybe Fuzz and China should start there own show."
Good shout, both are decent car guys, and both very watchable for their knowledge and skill sets,
both Brewer and Tim wee me right off and almost make the programs almost un watchable
Back to my hatred of TG /GT etc, I can not stand Hammond, thus I don't watch the programmes, because
he needs a tube off canniston
"to eradicate an irritating c*nt
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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