JoelP
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 07:47 PM |
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its a pointless car because the technology simply doesnt exist for battery cars at the minute, and additionally the national grid couldnt deal with
charging them en masse.
Doesnt look bad, but the spoiler is pointless. As an electric car its meant to be economical hence low drag, NOT sporty. At least yet anyway.
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JoelP
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 07:49 PM |
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a much better idea would be to stick a hydrogen fuel cell in it, you could have a device at home that seperated water constantly with less electricity
being required, and just top up a tank when you get home. NOT frantically try to charge batteries overnight.
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Simon
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 08:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
How come a Citreon Badge is so distasteful to so many one here? I know build quality isn't great but Citreons usually fair better than Alfas in
that respect and in many cases are just as beautiful.
No idea - maybe everyone has a german is best complex (misguided at best I know)
I had a Picasso, and while I hated every minute I owned it, it was actually a perfectly good car. Reasonably comfy, spaciousish, never broke; just oh
so average. You have to rememer we needed to replace our Rover BRM 200 due to second child, so was kind of forced into having sensible car.
A friend's dad had many french cars and I used to love the CX's (and their Renault 25 Turbo). My old man had a Volvo ........
I quite like this - reminiscent of Citroens of old:
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 30/4/10 by Simon]
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morcus
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 06:49 AM |
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My dad loved his Rovers and Citreons (He's had quite a few of each) and they all had fairly majoy faults bar his 400 (That someone crashed into
the back of at 90mph and some how the court decided it was his fault).
I think your right about the German thing, even though the French make better luxury cars (maybe not as reliable).
Everyone also likes to forget that Bugatti is French (Albeit nominally).
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Simon
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 01:17 PM |
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My father nearly had an SD1 but salesman oversold product and Pops decided he was desparate. Never bought a Rover after that.
I've had numerous Mini's x 3, SD1's x2, 800 x1, 200 x 2 (wifes current ZR), ZT260.
Never let down by any of them and my old man still criticized them.
ATB
Simon
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 02:02 PM |
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I used to like Citroens when their designs were totally off-the-wall - from the Traction Avant through to the original DS. They've got far too
'boring Eurobox' lately.
I admire their bravery in this design, but it's much too bitty and doesn't really hang together... maybe it would look better in the
flesh. From the side it reminds me of the Smart... perhaps that's because of the coloured panels.
BTW - talking of the DS - what's the opinion on the new DS5? I think it's hideous!
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Jasper
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 02:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
I think your right about the German thing, even though the French make better luxury cars (maybe not as reliable).
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I'm sorry, are you completely mad ?????? The French make a better luxury car than the Germans??? I've owned a few French cars in my time,
and whilst they can make a great hot hatch, there is absolutely no way I would EVER swap my 5 series for a piece of over complicated French cr*p. I
had one of the latest Espaces with all the bells on, and it spent more time in the garage than it did on my driveway. Never ever ever again would I
buy a French car - the thought of driving around in one of those generic French boxes - Picasso, Scenic etc etc just fills me with dread....
When you drive a nice big German car they just feel totally different, solid, smooth, fast, comfortable, just enough electronics, beautifully made
interior, handle beautifully, stop well etc etc etc. Which might be why the 5 series always gets voted top in it's class.....
Sorry about the rant ..... I'll calm down now .... 
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:55 PM |
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Depends how you define a great luxury car, I've heard the older Citroens are far better in the comfort stakes, but the build is completely
barmy.
Living round here you notice that every other car is a Vauxhall, the other half is 40% Ford, 40% Mazda. I've pretty much demanded that the next
car we get is something we've never seen round here, as I don't want what everyone else has got. I'd have that Citroen now if it was
available, along with just about anything else different. Coming back from Llandudno today spotted a scrappies with a load of old car shells, gonna
have to go back there when I clear the garage
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Simon
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 07:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasper
Which might be why the 5 series always gets voted top in it's class.....
Sorry about the rant ..... I'll calm down now ....
Until you read the latest issue of Which?, which says the lastest BMW 5 needs to "improve on the reliablity record of its predecessor..."
and "stacks up well against the ageing Audi A6".
ATB
Simon
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Jasper
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 08:53 PM |
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Yeah, and it's the previous model I've got and love and the A6 is German as well I'll think you'll find!
[Edited on 1/5/10 by Jasper]
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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Simon
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 01:11 AM |
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You love the unreliable one
And the friend's dad who had the Citroen's/Ren 25 Turbo/Carlton GSi then bought, and I quote him "worst car I've ever
had", yep, an Audi A6
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 2/5/10 by Simon]
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 05:36 AM |
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I imagine only the S6 would stack up against a Carlton GSi...
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morcus
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| posted on 2/5/10 at 07:27 AM |
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Luxury is a very complicated thing and German car makers usually ruin there attempts with allusions of Sportiness.
Citreon make the most comfortable cars you can buy and I'd have a C6 over a 5 series if I was in the market for that kind of car. As I said
before, I've been in a Citreon that had a blow out at 70 on the motor way and none of us noticed.
Luxury is purely about Comfort and Style, everything else is Irrelvant.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Jasper
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 09:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
Luxury is a very complicated thing and German car makers usually ruin there attempts with allusions of Sportiness.
Citreon make the most comfortable cars you can buy and I'd have a C6 over a 5 series if I was in the market for that kind of car. As I said
before, I've been in a Citreon that had a blow out at 70 on the motor way and none of us noticed.
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Luxury is purely about Comfort and Style, everything else is Irrelvant.
Luxury is not just about Style and Comfort, if it was then why are most of the so called luxury cars also powerful, refined, well put togther, handle
well etc etc. Why make a Bentley fast then? Citroen may be make the most comfy cars, but there's so much more to luxury than just a nice soft
ride.
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 09:42 AM |
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Oh yeah you don't want a Bentley that's going to struggle uphill, or blow a gasket because you've been doing 75mph for a couple of
hours
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morcus
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 04:56 PM |
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That would come under comfort though. If a car is underpowered it won't be comfortable and power isn't whats wrong with German cars. As
Rolls Royce literature of old states, power should be sufficient and French Luxury cars don't have issues with lack of power, they are normally
slightly less powerful than their german equivalents but they're also lighter.
I don't know why I'm bothering, this isn't going to change your mind, but the only decent German Limo is the Phaeton.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 05:44 PM |
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True, I'd have a Phaeton
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morcus
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 10:04 PM |
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Have you been in one? its amazing and you can get a good one for less than £10K
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Jasper
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| posted on 4/5/10 at 07:55 AM |
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Who said anything about wanting a limo? I want a fast, reliable (and mine has been) comfortable and fun car to drive, with acres of space in the
touring boot for work - and I wouldn't have anything else ....
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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