morcus
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 06:28 PM |
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My Mum had a Sedona for a few years, the only problem they ever had with it was trying to get rid of it when they were finished. My parents have had a
few large Kias and they were all put together quite well, which I can't say Chryslers are because my Mums current PT Cruiser seems to have been
built by Apes and my God mothers old Voyager (was new about 5 years ago) fell apart, literally, it blew up in Calaise.
Off all the MPV's the French ones were probably the best ones, the Espace in particular.
I thought the reason why the 232 layout is normal was because its safer in a Crash? As above, your much better running 2,2,2 with a gap if you only
need 6 of the seats, you take out the seat next to the near side door and you have a massive entry space.
The problem with going older is MPV's tend to get worked very hard so even if you buy what started out as a better Product, chances would be
higher of it failing.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 06:32 PM |
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Still loving my Synergie.
7 seats.
You can camp in it.
Driven carefully, I can get 46mpg.
Driven averagely, I regularly get 43mpg.
HDi is much much less gruff then than the VAG 1.9 TDI motor.
I can carry the whole band's gear in it.
Sliding doors like the later C8 et al.
Fab machine.
Zero street cred, but frankly who gives a toss when it's this usefull.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 07:08 PM |
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Problem with Renaults is the choclate teapot 1.9 Dci diesel, if you buy one new and run it with nothing but 5w/30 fully synthetic in the sump and
change twice a year all is fine but if you don't kiss the turbo and engine goodbye at between 60,,0000 and 80,000 miles.
[Edited on 1/9/10 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 07:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
quote:
Originally posted by alistairolsen
and in many cases the rear seats face backwards and if childminding demands any of the same things as a local authority school run that wont be
acceptable
Most proper MPVs have 7 forward facing seats....
Its only the estates that they decided to throw 2 seats in the boot and charge extra for.
But your right, local authority doesnt allow backward facing seats
I was referring to the volvo estate suggestion mate
My Build Thread
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whitestu
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 08:14 PM |
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quote:
Still loving my Synergie.
+1
This is what I would have bought, but my Mrs preferred the C8.
Stu
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nick205
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 08:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Ford/Seat/VW = Money pit.
Could you expand on that?
Any particular issues, weaknesses to be accounted for?
I ask as an owner.
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nick205
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
HDi is much much less gruff then than the VAG 1.9 TDI motor.
I found the 2.0 HDI (306 HDI) a little quieter than the 1.9 TDI, but noticeably less willing to rev and breathless when pushing on. Still a good
motor though IMO.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/9/10 at 09:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
HDi is much much less gruff then than the VAG 1.9 TDI motor.
I found the 2.0 HDI (306 HDI) a little quieter than the 1.9 TDI, but noticeably less willing to rev and breathless when pushing on. Still a good
motor though IMO.
I never go beyond 3,000rpm.
Most of the time, I change at 2,500 and let the torque do the work.
That way you're at 1,500rpm in the next gear where the torque is already available, unlike the VAG engine where it doesn't start until
1900rpm, so you need to rev it higher to make sure you're never below that.
All in my opinion of course. 
I've had two, a 130bhp PD and a 90bhp in an Audi 80 some years back.
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nick205
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| posted on 2/9/10 at 12:30 AM |
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^^^ i concur and drive similarly most of the time,but have no problem letting it rev either 
on my 3rd TDI, 1.9 PD150, 1.9 PD115 & 2.0 PD140 and loved them all (well maybe liked the 115)
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