Mark Allanson
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 09:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by fossycov
morcus
What are you grass of the year?? You guys all need to get your facts right before commenting on something you are clearly not 100% with.
Do you guys all meet up at the weekends for a fondle in the woods???
I guess this is your car?
If it is, you will be passing to the new owner a car which is uninsurable unless IVA'd, will have 5 years liability of unpaid tax, potentially
unsafe as untested, utterly contemptable.
To knowingly defraud a potential purchaser, and then whinge about it - beyond belief
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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theduck
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 09:16 PM |
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Lmao. The owner finds his way here, always fun.
Your car is a ringer, deal with it.
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rdodger
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 09:16 PM |
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Interesting response.
Dear dodger147,
If you are not interested in buying it stop messaging me! Go and tell your sad little gang on the forum to find better things to do with there time.
Just for the record I only bought the car 2 months ago as an impulse buy! This is all new too me! After hearing what all you arse holes have to say,
why the hell would anyone want to join a club of wankers anyway?? No wonder people don't do things properly!! Its like being back at school, if
you have a problem bring it to my attention not bitch about it! Thanks to the chap who politely pointed this out to me!
- bo55rmc
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AndyW
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 09:24 PM |
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The seller is some sort of trade/dealer? His e-bay ID has changed twice from www.removemycar.co.uk to trade-sales and now to what the advert shows.
They know they have a ringer and trying to get rid on the bay for cheap
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 09:52 PM |
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Thought I would register myself
Just for the record, I know nothing about all this IVA/SVA checks despite being in the motor trade, I purchased the vehicle not even 2 months ago of
ebay as an impulse buy! (Ebay Item Number: 171050559518 or click on link below)
Ebay item: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171050559518?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Do not assume everyone selling one of these is a crook or a car ringer! Have you ever stopped and though actually they could be a victim them selves??
I did question about being a Triumph but assumed and was persuaded that it was normal and was a Mk replica based on a Triumph Spartan, after all why
would I buy a car if there was any doubt there could be anything wrong or not done correctly?? It is laughable to think that I have gone into this
with complete ignorance and I will be in touch with DVLA myself I can assure you of that!
Regards
Steve
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theduck
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 10:03 PM |
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Why sign up twice??
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loggyboy
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| posted on 21/7/13 at 10:33 PM |
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Both called Stephen by looks of it, so maybe wanting to come across less aggressive than the first post.
[Edited on 21-7-13 by loggyboy]
Mistral Motorsport
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ste
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 02:47 AM |
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Firstly, one of the seat bolts is hanging out.
Second, the reg comes back as being on a LANDROVER RANGE ROVER VOGUE TD6
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snakebelly
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 06:25 AM |
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So its an mk on spartan v5 using a landrover number plate think this may be a record!
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richardm6994
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 07:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
Thought I would register myself
Do not assume everyone selling one of these is a crook or a car ringer! Have you ever stopped and though actually they could be a victim them selves??
So you're the victim........and now your aim / hope is to make someone else a victim. Two wrongs don't make a right.
The only way you can legitimatly sell this car is as an unregistered kit car (needs IVA) or track car. Anything else and you are breaking the
law....end of story.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 07:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ste
Firstly, one of the seat bolts is hanging out.
Second, the reg comes back as being on a LANDROVER RANGE ROVER VOGUE TD6
Good spot on the bolt, though the reg does relate to a 1968 Triumph Spartan kit car in blue.
I'm inclined to accept what the owner is saying and it's a shame he's now in this situation. However the car is clearly built to a
very high standard and with some help from the folk on this forum he could have it sail through the IVA. He has removed the sale from eBay so no need
to hound him.
Hopefully he will come back to the forum and we can all start afresh.
[Edited on 22/7/13 by Mr Whippy]
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 07:39 AM |
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Finally, someone with some sense! Thank you Mr Whippy!
I have only learnt of the IVA/SVA tests since having the car on eBay, which is why I have now ended it!
It would fully make sense to get it tested and legit as people have pointed out on here, why take the risk?
Love the picture by the way Snakebelly, made me laugh! (Another one who has a brain and recognised the true picture)
Regards
Steve
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 07:41 AM |
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P.S I also noticed the bolt on the pic after taking it and that has been sorted.
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SCAR
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:06 AM |
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Its difficult to have any sympathy with someone who's response to valid criticism and concern is so abusive. It is nice however that the
seller is a motor trader even if its one that is simply ignorant of the law regarding vehicles as claimed rather than dishonest as the come back
should someone buy it miss described is much greater.
Its the sellers legal responsibility to know what they are selling, If your not sure then you need to find out before advertising something, its not
hard.
I posted concerns on here because the members are helpful and friendly have common interests and willingly share their expertise and knowledge and I
would not like anyone of them to make a mistake buying a dodgy motor. Given the level of ignorance, and abusive responses probably not a place for
the motor trader involved then.
Its understandable to be sceptical of anyone let alone a motor trader that cant read or understand a v5 document or that a vehicle registered as a
rebuilt triumph should have some triumph parts or that a vehicle built in 2008 can qualify as being tax exempt, this doesn't require expert
knowledge. Wrong career choice perhaps.
Had the response been more "oops I didn't realise Ill try to sort it out " I know there would have been members on here offering to
give up their time to advise and help.
The abusive and insulting responses identify the sellers attitude, its understandable the reaction becomes "he wants stopping before someone
gets ripped off".
EDIT
Now we start to get somewhere and a sense of reason prevails
We'll put the earlier posts down to a knee jerk reaction
Part of the problem is down to the garage that mot'd it
Cheers
[Edited on 22/7/13 by SCAR]
[Edited on 22/7/13 by SCAR]
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gaz_gaz
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by ste
Firstly, one of the seat bolts is hanging out.
Second, the reg comes back as being on a LANDROVER RANGE ROVER VOGUE TD6
Good spot on the bolt, though the reg does relate to a 1968 Triumph Spartan kit car in blue.
I'm inclined to accept what the owner is saying and it's a shame he's now in this situation. However the car is clearly built to a
very high standard and with some help from the folk on this forum he could have it sail through the IVA. He has removed the sale from eBay so no need
to hound him.
Hopefully he will come back to the forum and we can all start afresh.
[Edited on 22/7/13 by Mr Whippy]
Well said!!
Out of interest does the car have reverse?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:14 AM |
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If you could take some more pictures of the car concentrating on key areas like the front suspension and interior/dash/seat belt fastenings and some
of the rest of the car and find the engine number to determine the year for emission test requirements.
You need to load the pictures into your photo archive first and then insert the picture address in the post, ask if you need help with this
Then start a new thread called something like Pre IVA checks so folk on here can have a good look at what will be required, I can't see many
issues apart from covering bolts and the bottom of the dash not having the 19mm radius.
Never know you may actually enjoy getting a chance to fiddle with it
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SCAR
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:21 AM |
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Don't forget to check the vin plate
You may find its been cut out of the triumph or the Spartan and welded to the new mk chassis. It should have been checked during an mot. I would get
this off asap as you could still have the vehicle seized and crushed while ever it carries the false identity.
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:25 AM |
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No reverse unfortunately Mr Whipp
Scar, what got my back up was rdodger contacting me on eBay, find out info, asking questions then reporting back to this forum like a child! If people
want to jump to conclusions or provide criticism in a negative way and make accusations I simply have no time for them! Anyone who has words of advise
or wants to help (which is what these forums are supposed to do) then I am all ears and very much appreciate it! Anyone else can visit
www.facebook.com
This was one for myself a toy for the summer. Even if you were a trader, this is an area of the trade you would need to research on as it is a bit
more specialised. Any area a lot of traders I know, know nothing about as its not usually a car they would ever buy too sell.
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:29 AM |
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Thanks Mr Whipp, will look into this and Scar I have a funny feeling you could be right, the first thing I need to do is try and get the reg plate of
the vehicle, then I will have a little bit of time to go to work on this and try to resolve it.
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:32 AM |
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Im assuming it will go onto a Q plate once all sorted? it was originally on an old F plate when I bought it then put KHL33 on it as it is a dateless
reg number.
DVLA surely cannot bill someone for 5 years of tax when you have only had the car 2 months can they?
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Norfolkluegojnr
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
Im assuming it will go onto a Q plate once all sorted? it was originally on an old F plate when I bought it then put KHL33 on it as it is a dateless
reg number.
DVLA surely cannot bill someone for 5 years of tax when you have only had the car 2 months can they?
An interesting question. I doubt it, but I'd suggest not shouting to loudly about its previous life on the road when you get the IVA
done/correct reg sorted.
Get some pictures up so we can see how much work you've got ahead of you. On the upside, a recently completed and IVA'd car is likely to
be worth a little more
P.S. the build looks pretty good by the way, I certainly liked the look of it when browsing ebay.
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:44 AM |
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Nice to know it has something going for it then! :-)
Yea agree with you on the not shouting too loudly idea :-)
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
......Scar, what got my back up was rdodger contacting me on eBay, find out info, asking questions then reporting back to this forum like a child! If
people want to jump to conclusions or provide criticism in a negative way and make accusations I simply have no time for them! Anyone who has words of
advise or wants to help (which is what these forums are supposed to do) then I am all ears and very much appreciate it! Anyone else can visit
www.facebook.com.....
Just to try and keep the waters calm, members often 'report' back to the forum not as a childish act, but merely to try and avoid anyone
who may be new to kit cars or unaware of all the requuirements getting stung as it seems you may have been. The forum is a very useful place for
anyone either with or thinking about getting a kit car and you will find it is a veritable mine of information. Without this forum, I would have
probably never have finished my scratch-build at all.
Hope you get it sorted and I'm sure you will get as many answers on here as you need.
And welcome to the forum
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:54 AM |
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Understood Scar.... Thanks
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bo55rmc
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| posted on 22/7/13 at 08:55 AM |
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Sorry, Daddylonglegs lol...Still trying to get use to how these forums work ;-)
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