sdh2903
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| posted on 18/12/18 at 05:15 PM |
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Your misunderstanding me. I'm all for endeavour. But make it RELEVANT. doing it using some sort of alternative power, hydrogen or electric that
would have piqued interest and probably more corporate sponsors. Let's push the boundaries of tomorrow's engineering not
yesterday's.
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02GF74
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| posted on 18/12/18 at 06:16 PM |
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Originally posted by peter030371
quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
Ok enlighten me. What are we going to learn that's useful and will help us progress in other areas of engineering? [/quote
I give up! Let us go back to living in caves rather than explore the limits of what is possible 
In olden days, it was pushing techmology to the limits and development of it such as engines and aerodynamics.
We know that current techmology will push objects at mach 4 and beyond, albeit in the air.
If it happens, the only thing we will learn is how brave /foolish a human being can be, that thing's a death trap should it flip at 1002 mph.
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steve m
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| posted on 18/12/18 at 06:46 PM |
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Have to agree with ^^
Although I would dearly like to see it do the 1000 mph, and safely, I cant see it happening, as ive been watching the news bulletins via email for
YEARS, and nothing seems to of happened in YEARS,
shame, as My Fathers name is on the tail (apparently) and when I paid for that is was around 2010, 8 years ago, and my Father was of a sound mind,
not so now 
Also the project was aiming at being viable around 2014/15 for an attempt at the record, and nearly 4 years down the line, its less viable now, than
when it started !!
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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peter030371
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| posted on 18/12/18 at 07:21 PM |
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To the above, the answer to your doubts are, in the main, listed in the many pages of the website.
www.bloodhoundssc.com
It has not all gone to plan but then life never does. I hope that a British team are the first to take a land based vehicle to >1000mph
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 18/12/18 at 11:17 PM |
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Originally posted by peter030371
To the above, the answer to your doubts are, in the main, listed in the many pages of the website.
www.bloodhoundssc.com
It has not all gone to plan but then life never does. I hope that a British team are the first to take a land based vehicle to >1000mph
^^^^^^^^
Me too!
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Sam_68
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| posted on 19/12/18 at 11:39 PM |
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Originally posted by peter030371
[The dynamics of a land based vehicle (not a plane or space craft) at these speeds is just unknown ...
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Originally posted by 02GF74
We know that current technology will push objects at mach 4 and beyond, albeit in the air.
There have actually been a number of rocket sled research programmes in various countries from the 1940's onwards. They have run at speeds up to
Mach 8.5. There is even one here in the UK, at Pendine Sands in Wales (the Pendine Long Test Track), now operated by Qinetiq, that has been around
since the 1950's and is capable of running objects up to Mach 3.
These are routine testing facilities.
Anyone who tells you that the aerodynamics of supersonic bodies in ground effect are unknown is simply misinformed.
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peter030371
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| posted on 20/12/18 at 09:08 AM |
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Originally posted by Sam_68
There have actually been a number of rocket sled research programmes in various countries from the 1940's onwards. They have run at speeds up to
Mach 8.5. There is even one here in the UK, at Pendine Sands in Wales (the Pendine Long Test Track), now operated by Qinetiq, that has been around
since the 1950's and is capable of running objects up to Mach 3.
These are routine testing facilities.
Anyone who tells you that the aerodynamics of supersonic bodies in ground effect are unknown is simply misinformed.
Indeed the Pendine sled has been used for early Thrust SSC development but it has limitations when looking at ground effects at >Mach 1 so for
Bloodhound they have now used just CFD 
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HowardB
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| posted on 20/12/18 at 09:44 AM |
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worth a look
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 20/12/18 at 01:41 PM |
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Originally posted by sdh2903
I genuinely don't see the point. Now don't get me wrong I love the whole explorer/pioneer spirit. I love reading about and watching stuff
on Bonneville, Donald campbell etc. But this is so irrelevant. It's just willy waving. What are we going to learn about going above the last
record?
Petrol engines are let's face it dying. Surely there are more interesting and relevant engineering projects to take on over plonking a typhoon
engine into a car.
Same reason people climb the next highest mountain. Because it's hard, because you build a team that learns new things (be that in aero, in
certain technologies, or simply because it's fun and inspiring). If people didn't think like this, you'd never get the pioneers. Why
bother going for any record if going to the next record isn't valuable purely from "what might come out of it" unknowns.
Your thinking is similar to why blue skies research value is questioned constantly in universities, and why funding is de-allocated from
non-commercially viable projects. Yet blue skies research is where most major developments and breakthroughs occur, not in step change commercially
viable projects. And those breakthroughs come because we didn't know what we didn't know, we learned something new when we thought we
could do it with current knowledge. We overcome difficulties that no-one has had to yet.
Don't claim to love the pioneer spirit and then effectively shat on pushing a limit of which you know very little, that's armchair
hypocrisy.
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jeffw
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| posted on 21/12/18 at 07:56 AM |
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Dear BLOODHOUND Supporter (i.e. me)
As you will be aware BLOODHOUND Programme Limited recently went into voluntary Administration, but we are absolutely delighted that on Monday 17th
December, the business and assets were bought allowing the Project to continue.
The acquisition was made by Yorkshire-based entrepreneur Ian Warhurst. Ian is a mechanical engineer by training, with a strong background in managing
a highly successful business in the automotive engineering sector, so he will bring a lot of expertise to the Project.
Ian and his family have been enthusiastic BLOODHOUND supporters for many years, and this inspired his new involvement with the Project and will shape
its future: “I am delighted to have been able to safeguard the business and assets preventing the project breakup. I know how important it is to
inspire young people about science, technology, engineering and maths, and I want to ensure BLOODHOUND can continue doing that into the future.”
“It’s clear how much this unique British project means to people and I have been overwhelmed by the messages of thanks I have received in the last few
days.”
Although it has been a frustrating few months for BLOODHOUND, we are thrilled that Ian has saved BLOODHOUND SSC from closure for the country and the
many supporters around the world who have been inspired by the Project. We now have a lot of planning to do for 2019 and beyond, so we’re going to
have a break over Christmas and then return in the New Year to formulate the next steps.
We’d like to thank you for your past support of the Project and will write again in the New Year with further news.
Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
The BLOODHOUND Team
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sdh2903
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| posted on 21/12/18 at 10:12 AM |
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"that's armchair hypocrisy"
Well excuse me for having an opinion that may differ from yours.
If you think there's lots to be learned from launching an internal combustion engine, a jet engine and a rocket down a runway then good for you.
But I don't. If they were using technology that wasn't centuries old or new propulsion methods then I'd be more excited over it.
But at the end of the day it's a private venture funded by an enthusiast so good luck to them but I still maintain my previous view that
it's just willy waving. We already hold the record. We've already gone supersonic.
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femster87
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| posted on 21/12/18 at 05:30 PM |
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If someone paid me tinker as much as they did. Even I would take the money. Regarding success, well sometimes you just have try. It might work or
fail.
I don't think the team are commercially savvy and there is no investor breathing down their neck for results. That seems to produce quicker
results.
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craig1410
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| posted on 25/12/18 at 01:36 AM |
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I am frankly amazed to hear the level of naysaying around the Bloodhound project on this thread. I am personally delighted that the project has been
saved for the time being and I very much hope it succeeds in its goals. I’m truly stunned at the lack of support from many of you.
For those of you in the “...what’s the point...” camp I would ask you to consider the same question about why you are building your own project
vehicle? Does anyone have the right to tell you that you are wrong? Do you really believe that you learn nothing by seeing such a project through to
completion?
I mourn the passing of the space program, the shuttle program and Concorde and, although I understand the logic behind those decisions in many ways,
it doesn’t lessen the feeling that we have lost something important. We are hard-wired to push the limits and to evolve if we stop doing that then,
yeah, what IS the point!
Come on folks, the least we can do is encourage the dreamers amongst us.
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