garage19
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 09:39 AM |
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You don't need turbo pistons, just two genuine honda head gaskets.
That is what haleshot used to use until they sourced a custom thicker one from the states. They ma sell you one of these if you ask.
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welderman
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 10:27 AM |
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i found holeshot a bit, errr, not very forth coming for info, but hey there in buisness to sell things. But im ok on that.
Will only go the MAD route if the gear box is goosed, but for now 2 gaskets will do me fine.
So how much boost you got garage19 ?.
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JoelP
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 10:49 AM |
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downside of the intercooler is increased lag as there is a greater volume to pressurise. You want to work out if you really need it or not, obviously
at very low boost its totally unneeded, at high boost its very much needed. All IMHO
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mb893
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 11:27 AM |
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AT 0.5 - 0.8 Bar you really don't need an intercooler... Apart from you can't fit a big enough in a sevenesque to make that much
difference at that level. Hence my temp post... No where near 100 deg+ going into the engine!
I've found WI a simple and effective way to the job - well a lot more than the job actually.
You'll need to fit a 1.7mm COMETIC head, gasket rather than two standard ones, to drop the comp a tad. Unless you're going for 1.1 Bar+
low comp pistons are... expensive and not needed.
You also have to concider the clutch. The turbo puts a lot more torque through it and simply bunging in the 'Uprated' or 'Heavy
duty' junk that's available really won't do the trick. Think less than 100 miles between clutch changes.
At the levels I'm running there are fixes out there that work, but if you intend on running more than 0.5 - 0.8 Bar you will need to redesign
the whole clutch system...
Edit for:
My car did run with a 1ltr intercooler - with no lag. Took it out beacause of cooling issues... So with bike engines, unless you're running a
huge turbo that's not matched to the engine I don't think lag is much of an issue.
Rather the other way around in that the power on a N/A engine comes in a what - 5-6Krpm... with my system the power really starts at around the 4K
mark.
[Edited on 25/2/07 by mb893]
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welderman
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 01:43 PM |
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so then, we cant decide on an intercooler.
Ive just bought a facet red top pump.
need to weld on another pipe for the regulator.
are any of you using a air fuel ratio meter with a lamba sensor fitted.
cometic for a new thicker gasket.
owt else?.
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dilley
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 02:17 PM |
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i have a lamba sensor position on my exhaust for setting up purposes.
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garage19
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 04:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
downside of the intercooler is increased lag as there is a greater volume to pressurise. You want to work out if you really need it or not, obviously
at very low boost its totally unneeded, at high boost its very much needed. All IMHO
Along while ago i used to think that too until i did the calcs for a huge RS500 style car intercooler. If you read the compressor map and work out
how much volume of air your compressor is shifting at certain points and then calculate the volume of your IC, you will see that even on a big RS500
cooler it actually only takes a tenth of a second to fill.
So go for the biggest IC you can fit.
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garage19
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 04:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
i found holeshot a bit, errr, not very forth coming for info, but hey there in buisness to sell things. But im ok on that.
Will only go the MAD route if the gear box is goosed, but for now 2 gaskets will do me fine.
So how much boost you got garage19 ?.
Before i sold the bike she was running nearly 10 psi.
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welderman
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 10:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dilley
i have a lamba sensor position on my exhaust for setting up purposes.
What kind did you go for a digital one or the led dot one?.
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the_fbi
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| posted on 25/2/07 at 10:44 PM |
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Given the way the £/$ is currently, great time to invest in a Wideband Lambda.
circa £101 delivered.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150088462859
Just waiting for mine to arrive......
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welderman
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 08:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by the_fbi
Given the way the £/$ is currently, great time to invest in a Wideband Lambda.
circa £101 delivered.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150088462859
Just waiting for mine to arrive......
[/quoteDont see a guage for itm though.
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the_fbi
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 09:42 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
quote:
Originally posted by the_fbi
Given the way the £/$ is currently, great time to invest in a Wideband Lambda.
circa £101 delivered.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150088462859
Just waiting for mine to arrive......
Dont see a guage for itm though.
Plug it into your PC and you get it all on the screen. Perfect for initial setting up and health checks.
Can run it into a DVM too if you want a standalone display rather than a laptop.
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welderman
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 03:46 PM |
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think this will do for the intercooler?.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160087819517&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
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the_fbi
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 06:24 PM |
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Personally something like
http://cgi1.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130081926213 (although width could be an issue)
or
http://cgi1.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180087564284
Which are nice and small
Really shouldn't need to be over £30 for a small intercooler. Just try and get one without plastic end caps as these generally blow off at high
boost levels (not that you'll be near them).
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welderman
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 07:41 PM |
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just found this baby
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220002956948&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012
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dilley
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 07:53 PM |
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Where are you thinking of mounting it?
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welderman
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 07:55 PM |
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not sure, i can fab up almost anything so who knows, passenger seat, cause no one will probably get in after ive fitted the turbo. 
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dilley
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 08:10 PM |
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they will...only once though
I origionaly mounted min in the nose cone but had cooling trouble, I have now moved it under the bonnet in front of the scuttleDrivers side and
mounted a scoop aboveit, so far so good.
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welderman
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 08:14 PM |
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ye, seen it in your archive it looks very tidy under there. But that plenum looked a bit untidy with all that stuff on it.
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dilley
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 08:18 PM |
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I covered it in araldite as a quick fixIt was all down to Holeshot, but that a different story...... Its now been sorted thanks to pathfinder, and
is now polished.
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welderman
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| posted on 26/2/07 at 08:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
think this will do for the intercooler?.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160087819517&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006
dilley, do you think this will do the trick?.
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dilley
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| posted on 27/2/07 at 07:29 AM |
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get some dimensions,personally I would go for something not so thick and larger-more surface area.
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welderman
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| posted on 27/2/07 at 07:45 AM |
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get your driftmate, will check ut the old ebay today.
Joe
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welderman
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| posted on 28/2/07 at 06:42 PM |
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Hi fellas, do you all run boost guages?.
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the_fbi
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| posted on 28/2/07 at 07:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by welderman
Hi fellas, do you all run boost guages?.
Yip, essential so you know whats going on!
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