Micael
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 03:30 PM |
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Saab R.I.P
http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/news/news_detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2009/Dec/1218_Saab_Release
Micael Moose Åman
Petrolhead and all around nice guy
"Don't leave the duck there. It's totally irresponsible. Put it on the swing, it'll have much more fun." //Sleep Talkin Man Dec 23
2009
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tegwin
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 03:30 PM |
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Meh.... mediocre dentists cars......
Shame spyker couldnt come to some agreement though!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 03:42 PM |
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That is sad  I love Saabs - seriously mental (with a bit of know how) understated cars that people think are dentist/pensioner mobiles rather than
tw*t mobiles like BMWs and Mercedes.......so you get let out at junctions, chavs don't try and race you and you can be pretty certain it will
still be where you parked it when you get back.....which is always a good thing!
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GMPMotorsport
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:22 PM |
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fully agree, a real shame Saab are/were a great brand, did some terrific rally cars and were one of those cars you either loved or hated built to last
solid and very reliable.
www.gmpdevelopments.co.uk
www.gmpmotorsport.co.uk
ARDS Instructer.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by GMPMotorsport
built to last solid and very reliable.
Up until it got an injection of General Motors DNA anyhow...
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mookaloid
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:30 PM |
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I have a '98 9-5 2.3t and it's great 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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scootz
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:47 PM |
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Oh dear... bad news for the town of Trollhättan and surrounding area - they will really struggle!
I was in the SAAB museum a few weeks ago whilst visiting a friend in Sweden... some lovely cars in there!
It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 04:55 PM |
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Some of the snaps I took on my phone...
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It's Evolution Baby!
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tegwin
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 05:12 PM |
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quote:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/2SAAB1.jpg
Why isnt that being built.... thats A M A Z I N G!!!
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AndyW
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 05:16 PM |
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shame, I learnt to drive in a 900 aero 16v. Massive turbo, beautiful car, went like the clappers.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 05:21 PM |
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Why couldn't this have happened to Vauxhall? Saab are waaaaaaay better
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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55ant
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 05:42 PM |
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooone cares.
shame to see it happen to such an understated company, brilliant sleeper cars.
away from cars, now cycling and building TT bikes
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scootz
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 06:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
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http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/2SAAB1.jpg
Why isnt that being built.... thats A M A Z I N G!!!
Looks even better in the flesh! Interior is pretty special too, but it was hard to take a half decent photo due to the glass being tinted.
It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 06:12 PM |
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LINKY to their concepts website... that particular car is the Aero-X.
It's Evolution Baby!
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Simon
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 06:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
Why couldn't this have happened to Vauxhall? Saab are waaaaaaay better
Let's hope TATA don't have probs with Jag, heh!
bttopic, can't say I'm surprised, any foreign outfit will wind down foreign ops rather than homegrown - apart from anything that was
British owned and mandelson got involved with like his Russion mates that owned TVR and LDV both of which......
ATB
Simon
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keithice
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 07:25 PM |
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still running my mum's "H" plate Saab 9000, solid, comfortable... love it.....
Smile and wave boys.... Smile and wave....
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dhutch
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
That is sad I love Saabs - seriously mental (with a bit of know how) understated cars that people think are dentist/pensioner mobiles rather than
tw*t mobiles like BMWs and Mercedes.......so you get let out at junctions, chavs don't try and race you and you can be pretty certain it will
still be where you parked it when you get back.....which is always a good thing!
Yeah, our neighbour has one and its a spot on. As you say, becuase the jocks done drive them everyone arround you just behaves more cival.
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morcus
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 08:39 PM |
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Its a real shame because SAAB were on the Brink of releasing about 3 new models, all od them looked really stylish and a return to true SAAB form (A
bit like what Citreon did about 5 years ago), A chinese company has bought all the models but not the Brand itself so it has to go (I was hoping FIAT
or Toyota might buy it).
Opel Vauxhall is probably GM's most sucessful brand so they wouldn't shut them down, SAAB had slightly limited apeal which was one of the
great things about them, as someone else said, people don't think your a knob like they would if you spent the same money on a Merc or BMW.
I used to really want a Rover, then they went bust, then I wanted a SAAB, now this, at the moment I'm lusting over a Caddy, Should Lutz and GM
be worried?
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gazza285
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 10:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
Opel Vauxhall is probably GM's most sucessful brand
Only because of their volume capacity to supply loads of moribund cack to the fleet markets.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 10:23 PM |
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quote:
Why isnt that being built.... thats A M A Z I N G!!!
probably because too many people think.....
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Meh.... mediocre dentists cars......
and you're all wrong and now look what's happened........
[Edited on 18/12/09 by D Beddows]
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scootz
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| posted on 18/12/09 at 10:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
... at the moment I'm lusting over a Caddy, should Lutz and GM be worried?
Never mind Lutz and GM... I'm worried! You WANT a Caddy? 
It's Evolution Baby!
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morcus
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 08:17 AM |
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Have you seen the CTS Coupe? I'm fairly sure they won't make it in RHD and that if they did it would cost to much to buy and far to much
to run, but I truely think its beautiful (Even with the Yanks refusal to use the acute on Coupé).
I did mention I used to want a Rover, surely thats a bigger crime?
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scootz
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 12:10 PM |
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It's not so much the styling (although not to my taste)... its all the cheap materials and poor build quality that traditionally surround
Caddy's that bothers me!
I'd take a Rover 75 / MG ZT over it any day of the week!
But we're all different... (thankfully!).
It's Evolution Baby!
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 02:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
Its a real shame because SAAB were on the Brink of releasing about 3 new models, all od them looked really stylish and a return to true SAAB form (A
bit like what Citreon did about 5 years ago), A chinese company has bought all the models but not the Brand itself so it has to go (I was hoping FIAT
or Toyota might buy it).
Opel Vauxhall is probably GM's most successful brand so they wouldn't shut them down, SAAB had slightly limited appeal which was one of
the great things about them, as someone else said, people don't think your a knob like they would if you spent the same money on a Merc or
BMW.
I used to really want a Rover, then they went bust, then I wanted a SAAB, now this, at the moment I'm lusting over a Caddy, Should Lutz and GM
be worried?
The problem with Saab under GM wasn't anything to do with styling more to do with engineering, in the GM era at Saab was GM through away the old
bullet proof SAAB engineering values and substituted under tested GM engineering, the main result was major problems with engine longevity. They were
building a car that looked and felt the part but with an engine that was unlikely to go past 70,000 miles without major engine work.
The British car manufacturers went by the board by following Detroit's low cost short life design philosophy but Detroit didn't watch
and learn.
[Edited on 19/12/09 by britishtrident]
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morcus
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| posted on 19/12/09 at 07:58 PM |
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I agree with you with regards to the engineering quality after GM took over, but I stand by my claims that the last generation of SAABs were styled
wrong and also the dropping of Hatchbacks to make the cars more 'German' was one of the worst things GM ever did to SAAB.
I am still a little surprised noone wanted to buy the SAAB name as to my mind it has a good reputation, much as a hate to admit it, I think one of the
German companies could have turned the brand around quite easilly (That said, BMW didn't put much effort into Rover).
For the record I wanted the 75 with the mustang engine.
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