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Richard Quinn

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:20 PM Reply With Quote
Been thinking... cars & cash

We have a great diversity of people and cars on here. The cars range from the scratch-built budget masterpieces to the full-on bling, big money jobs.
Now, I have a senior management position with a decent salary but not too much free time which has led to my car being a sort of mid-budget job which suits me well enough for the time being. I don't have much garage space so I have no "proper" workshop tools (counting lathes and stuff here) and have ended up buying a reasonable amount off-the shelf (apart from the motor related bits due to my unusual choice).
So the question that I have been pondering today is... what produces a nicer spec (in the owner's opinion) car, time or money?
And another one... How much is too much to plough into a toy car?
And finally... given the law of diminishing financial returns on the investment in nice shiny bits, is it done because we need to or just because we can?
Sorry if it's a bit rambling, I'm off sick at the moment (hence the time for thinking) and on some quite strong pain killers (hence the not doing something more productive in the garage!).

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blakep82

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:23 PM Reply With Quote
money and imagination





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carpmart

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:24 PM Reply With Quote
creativity, vision and cash!





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twybrow

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:26 PM Reply With Quote
Time and love can make more of an impact that money. Time, love, money ,imagination and LCB make a truly wonderful machine!
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tomgregory2000

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:33 PM Reply With Quote
Time and acess to a full workshop
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Danozeman

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:36 PM Reply With Quote
Definatley time spent doing it well but also money to enable you to do it.





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scootz

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
Time for me... seen guys doing amazing things on tight budgets over the years!





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austin man

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:40 PM Reply With Quote
Time and effort, even a caterham can look crap if the hearts not in the build. I have seen some pretty amazing looking cars created from little spend.

You could always buy one already registered and spend money making it your own.





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blakep82

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:41 PM Reply With Quote
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Time for me... seen guys doing amazing things on tight budgets over the years!


nah, its all the expensive top quality parts you've bought, and sold on cheap





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RichardK

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:41 PM Reply With Quote
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Definatley time spent doing it well but also money to enable you to do it.


Think that sums it up

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bj928

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:43 PM Reply With Quote
mine is be different whatever the price, mine has cost 20k so far and another 5k to go, but if it cast another 10k so be it, money is not the issue, its time to do it, and getting it right.
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woolly

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:45 PM Reply With Quote
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And another one... How much is too much to plough into a toy car?



my view what you can afford to loose if you have to and your family have to be comfortable with it.

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posted on 28/1/10 at 10:45 PM Reply With Quote
time and patience of doing a good job, not rushing (which i do a lot of) but also buying higher spec parts like brakes and turbo/superchargers etc.






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skinned knuckles

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:46 PM Reply With Quote
i dont have the time or the money, so will give you an opinion in 18-24 months time

TBH i'll just be happy with something that passes IVA, goes like stink and that SWMBO will never want to borrow to take the kids to school in





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Steve Hignett

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:47 PM Reply With Quote
Reading, understanding, time, effort and a specific range of skillsets that allow determination and belief to be the prevelant factors and then the money (or in my case, someone elses!)...

[Edited on 28/1/10 by Steve Hignett]






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Richard Quinn

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:48 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by bj928
mine is be different whatever the price, mine has cost 20k so far and another 5k to go, but if it cast another 10k so be it, money is not the issue, its time to do it, and getting it right.
I appreciate that your's is a little different to most but that's £25k to £30k for a homebuilt car which falls into my "why?" category. Is it because you need it or because you can? How much disposable income does a person need to have to justify spending that amount on something like that? Or maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree and it's not about the money, just the need to show that it can be done?

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blakep82

posted on 28/1/10 at 10:49 PM Reply With Quote
^ he's right, as long as its different, and you're happy to spend the money, then why not?

(thats my excuse anyway, not looking at how much i spent and it'll still already look about 5 years old when its done)

[Edited on 28/1/10 by blakep82]





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bj928

posted on 28/1/10 at 11:03 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Richard Quinn
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Originally posted by bj928
mine is be different whatever the price, mine has cost 20k so far and another 5k to go, but if it cast another 10k so be it, money is not the issue, its time to do it, and getting it right.
I appreciate that your's is a little different to most but that's £25k to £30k for a homebuilt car which falls into my "why?" category. Is it because you need it or because you can? How much disposable income does a person need to have to justify spending that amount on something like that? Or maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree and it's not about the money, just the need to show that it can be done?


i wanted to be different, money not an issue, all my money is mine, no family to worry about, and yes i am doing it because i can, also want to try and hit 200mph in a seven and maybe get in the guiness book of records for the fastest 7, or maybe the most powerfull, or something!!!!! but mainly cos i can, wanted to get noticed

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posted on 28/1/10 at 11:06 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by bj928
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Originally posted by Richard Quinn
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Originally posted by bj928
mine is be different whatever the price, mine has cost 20k so far and another 5k to go, but if it cast another 10k so be it, money is not the issue, its time to do it, and getting it right.
I appreciate that your's is a little different to most but that's £25k to £30k for a homebuilt car which falls into my "why?" category. Is it because you need it or because you can? How much disposable income does a person need to have to justify spending that amount on something like that? Or maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree and it's not about the money, just the need to show that it can be done?


i wanted to be different, money not an issue, all my money is mine, no family to worry about, and yes i am doing it because i can, also want to try and hit 200mph in a seven and maybe get in the guiness book of records for the fastest 7, or maybe the most powerfull, or something!!!!! but mainly cos i can, wanted to get noticed



You have to let us know when you go for your record breaking run, i'm pretty sure a lot of LCB'ers will be there to it!!






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Richard Quinn

posted on 28/1/10 at 11:11 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Richard Quinn
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Originally posted by bj928
mine is be different whatever the price, mine has cost 20k so far and another 5k to go, but if it cast another 10k so be it, money is not the issue, its time to do it, and getting it right.
I appreciate that your's is a little different to most but that's £25k to £30k for a homebuilt car which falls into my "why?" category. Is it because you need it or because you can? How much disposable income does a person need to have to justify spending that amount on something like that? Or maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree and it's not about the money, just the need to show that it can be done?


i wanted to be different, money not an issue, all my money is mine, no family to worry about, and yes i am doing it because i can, also want to try and hit 200mph in a seven and maybe get in the guiness book of records for the fastest 7, or maybe the most powerfull, or something!!!!! but mainly cos i can, wanted to get noticed
Fair play! I think, as a result of having too much time on my hands at the moment, that I have been trying to work out why we do what we do. I think that there are a couple of common threads here but we are all different. Some want to end up with something different to most other things out there and some want to end up with something different to the other different things out there, whether that is a custom made component, a different application for a common component or a complete car.
Bless us all eh?

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 28/1/10 at 11:44 PM Reply With Quote
The skills to carry out the build,then the time and then money, in that order, in my opinion.
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posted on 29/1/10 at 12:03 AM Reply With Quote
i think for me, ultimatly, its a hobby. Some people spend all there time learning to fight or play sport. Some build models or paint. We are gas guzzling, diesel snorting, octaine oggling petrol heads. Plain and simple. Some love the build, some love the drive. I like the learning and will put what ever effort, time and money i feel comfortable into this hobby i want. As long as it brings a smile and i want to do it all again tomorrow i think its ok.





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eddie99

posted on 29/1/10 at 12:20 AM Reply With Quote
I think Effort, Skills, Time, Money in that order!
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ashg

posted on 29/1/10 at 12:57 AM Reply With Quote
Lots of time and the correct tools can make you anything. money just speeds the process up. everyone will get there in the end although some people die first.

look at some of the historic buildings in london and various other city's they are engineering master pieces. most took over 20 odd years to build mainly due to lack of modern tools and money but they got there in the end!!





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Fozzie

posted on 29/1/10 at 01:28 AM Reply With Quote
Time patience and vision.......

Very little bling was purchased, and utilising everything possible from the donor...

Time and patience stripping all of the components, rebuilding and refurbing....

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