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posted on 4/2/10 at 04:57 PM

Westfield Megabusa

Potentially off to look at a Busa engined Westfield with a friend. Is there anything specific about the Busa I need to look out for ?

The car in question is this one

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1412047.htm

Any thoughts ?

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:16 PM

i would say it needs a nice stainless exhaust and a bit of an engine bay tidy up. other than that it looks ok.

i have also got a suspicion that the dodgy looking heat shield may be covering something a bit nasty. remember that the westfields side panels and tub are all one piece so if there is damage to one side its either replace the whole lot or try and repair it then paint the whole lot.

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:21 PM

I wasn't keen on the Ally under the exhaust either but it might look better in the flesh.

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:22 PM

Looks to me like it had an engine with a lower exhaust exit which has left a rather sizeable hole in the side. The phrase conversion in the text also suggests this.

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:23 PM

I was under the impression that Hayabusa engines in a car needed a dry sump - for track at least, can someone more informed than me confirm??

I would say, check the Quaife reverse for bearing play. They are sometimes hard to get to and the bearings are expensive from Quaife.

It looks a good car though. Check everything works, the car feels good. Test drive at normal speeds, full on acceleration will always be amazing and you won't be able to concentrate on anything else... :-)

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:23 PM

There are Westfield 'Mega' spec chassis and there are Westfields with standard chassis that have had bike conversions. That is the latter. It doesn't say if its IRS or live axle...

Yes, the Busa is the engine to have but overall, I would say that the car is well over-priced. It's also not dry-sumped so I personally would not drive it on the track, even with a TTS baffled sump. I'm sorry to say it, but in terms of the detailing on the car it looks pretty awful to me.

I think you could do a lot better for £9+k.
I'd rather this
... this...
...or if it must be a Westfield I'd wait.

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:32 PM

As said, not a mega chassis

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:37 PM

So.....so not worth the money and the engine maybe damaged if it has already been tracked ?

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:37 PM

I'm with TimC its not an original busa but a converted car hence the hole behind the ally plate. Seen better for the money.

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:43 PM

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...or if it must be a Westfield I'd wait.

Well he started out wanting a 'R' Caterham for his £10K lol...so no it doesn't have to be a Westfiled.

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:44 PM

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So.....so not worth the money and the engine maybe damaged if it has already been tracked ?

I guess its a possibility but those tyres don't look the most performance-focussed and hence surge may not have been an issue... yet.

The reality is, the only endearing feature for me is the motor. As well as the MNRs listed, I can think of at least two other BECs I'd rather spend that money on - although neither are advertised publicly.

Also why-on-earth would you want vented 6-pots on a BEC?

[Edited on 4/2/10 by TimC]

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posted on 4/2/10 at 05:50 PM

I guess because they are 'better' than 4-pots in this owners mind.

What other BECs are around then ?

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posted on 4/2/10 at 07:01 PM

how about this but im biased

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1376210.htm

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posted on 4/2/10 at 07:55 PM

Think thats been for sale before or has been on for awhile

As stated above, it didn't start out as a Busa engined Westy

Just my 2p but for that sort of money i think i'd hold on and wait
There'll be more coming up for sale soon...

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posted on 4/2/10 at 08:07 PM

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how about this but im biased

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1376210.htm />

Stunning car....the budget is £10K though, happy to do a deal around that sort of dosh

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posted on 5/2/10 at 04:47 PM

you don't need a dry sump system on a hayabusa, radical use to use a standard sump with an accusump system.

A baffled sump and accusump set-up is about a fifth of the cost and just as good.

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posted on 5/2/10 at 05:19 PM

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We use the Koenig billet oil pan with swivel oil pickup here in the US with our Hayabusa Furys with good results. Dry sumps are heavier, take up more space and have more points of failure. Biggest issue with Hayabusa lubrication is to keep the oil level correct and use the proper oil for your application.

You should also update any pre 2003 Hayabusa with the later factory starting system to prevent breaking the starter / cases the 1st time you spin.

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posted on 5/2/10 at 05:40 PM

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you don't need a dry sump system on a hayabusa, radical use to use a standard sump with an accusump system.

A baffled sump and accusump set-up is about a fifth of the cost and just as good.

I'm happy that there are alternatives as per Chet's insight but a Radical is not a sound point-of-reference as despite the fact that large forces are in play on a slicks and wings car, there is no getting away from the fact that the engine is the other way around to a front engined car.

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posted on 5/2/10 at 06:14 PM

going to look at this one instead

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1387629.htm

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posted on 5/2/10 at 08:37 PM

that ones better take 12000 in cash and drive it away

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posted on 5/2/10 at 09:54 PM

This is a converted car, it's not a Mega as has been mentioned, it's way overpriced and technically I'd stay well clear. However, what do I know, I've had quite a few 'Mega' spec cars with a number of engines.

Buy yourself an MK Indy, lots around.

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posted on 13/2/10 at 09:53 PM

And we went to see this one today

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1387629.htm

And my friend has bought. Really nice car.

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posted on 13/2/10 at 10:22 PM

Your friend made the right choice, I recommended that car to my friend only this week, a very good car.......... (and nothing to do with me!)

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posted on 19/2/10 at 10:26 AM

Friend here! Hi all, yes, another Jeff. It was hard for the guy when we both rolled up called Jeff, he really didn't know who he'd been talking to

Car is lovely, despite having to push it up a hill into my garage last night after it came off the trailer with a flat battery / starter button problem. List of things to sort before it goes for it's MOT but nothing much - car is fabulous and a credit to its previous owner who showered it with money to my benefit.

Cheers,
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posted on 19/2/10 at 11:44 AM

Friend of mine went to look at that, thought it was worth 6k in its current state, did you get a bargin?

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