TPG
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 10:13 PM |
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When?
So,When is Diesel and Petrol going to be affordable again? Is there going to be new "mortages" or other "money products" made
avalible to us all?
...............Just to restart a well covered subject again.Oh,if I was a conspiracy theroist i'd say it was a plan by "the
man".....(looks over shoulder) just remember,most of its duty.The various companies involved in getting it to the pumps aren't making as
much as the goverment out of it.I know 'barrell prices are up.I've been one of the lucky ones to get a heating fuel delivery (BIG Thankyou
Kettlewell Fuels.No thanks to Tates Fuels...)
..Which was nice..
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 10:36 PM |
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The only way to avoid crazy fuel prices is to get a bicycle,
High fuel prices are needed to keep BP profits going (after the transoil/Obama fiasco), which are needed to keep the UK economy credible.
You won't see the government calling in any watchdogs on this one.
Matt
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mad4x4
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 10:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
The only way to avoid crazy fuel prices is to get a bicycle,
High fuel prices are needed to keep BP profits going (after the transoil/Obama fiasco), which are needed to keep the UK economy credible.
You won't see the government calling in any watchdogs on this one.
Matt
BS - High Prices are DUE to the GOVERNEMENT's Tax and Duty policy's. Gordon Brown / Alister Darling and the New Prick all can;t afford
to cut fuel duty because they make so much revenue for it.
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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norfolkluego
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 10:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
quote:
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
The only way to avoid crazy fuel prices is to get a bicycle,
High fuel prices are needed to keep BP profits going (after the transoil/Obama fiasco), which are needed to keep the UK economy credible.
You won't see the government calling in any watchdogs on this one.
Matt
BS - High Prices are DUE to the GOVERNEMENT's Tax and Duty policy's. Gordon Brown / Alister Darling and the New Prick all can;t afford
to cut fuel duty because they make so much revenue for it.
+ 1 to that, it's the Government ripping us off over fuel prices not the oil companies
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loggyboy
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 11:03 PM |
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If you want it, you have to pay for it.
Simples.
I want a ferrari, but they are too expensive.
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Chippy
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 11:14 PM |
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Booze, fags and fuel = the best return to our government, and that includes ALL colours of parties. It's called milking the public till it
hurts. Grrrrrrrrr! Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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MikeR
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 11:32 PM |
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but until we reduce the amount of money needed by the gov to run the country ........ what else can we do? the money has to come from somewhere.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 18/12/10 at 11:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
If you want it, you have to pay for it.
Simples.
I want a ferrari, but they are too expensive.
True, you want to get to work, or have things in shops, or something delivered to you you have to pay for it.
The price of fuel dictates the price of everything that moves you know. If diesel was 1p per litre the cost of food, bus, post, taxi, cars, pretty
much everything would drop (well, technically)
No it's not going down, and it wouldn't surprise me to find they're stopping proper alternatives coming out
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Canada EH!
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I think you may find like every were else in the world the price of fuel goes up when the worth of the country goes down.
Case in point, when i started buying parts for my Locost the pound was $2.25 to the Canadian dollar, it is now $1.50 to the Canadian dollar.
Fuel is calculate on the world price set by Texas Light Crude, the Canadian doller is near par with the US, but we pay more than those 100 miles
south in the US.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 04:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Canada EH!
I think you may find like every were else in the world the price of fuel goes up when the worth of the country goes down.
Well if that's the case it's soon going to be £35 a litre cos this country ain't worth sh!t
(kinda joking  )
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morcus
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 07:40 AM |
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Granted the government needs to raise revenue but the fact remains, they charge VAT on Fuel duty, and Tobacco Duty, and Alcohol Duty and that
isn't right. VAT is meant to be a luxury tax, you can argue that fuel is a luxury but fuel duty isn't. I don't pay VAT on my council
tax, or my income tax.
From what I read on here the other day I don't think it's the government thats holding back alternative fuels, it's car buyers.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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richardh
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 09:21 AM |
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i can't see prices ever coming back down to sub £1 per litre. No matter what the state of this pitifully run country. Rich or poor, the
government will always have the mentality of "well the people have got used to it so we will just keep it as is"
Bloody conservatives of old started the fuel duty in the first place then new labour "cough" and brown used it as a cash boost.
and all this talk of electric power is total pish right now. until someone makes it more efficient and cheaper etc then what are the alternatives?
all in my limited knowledge humble opinion of course.
Time for a change!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 09:45 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
VAT is meant to be a luxury tax, you can argue that fuel is a luxury but fuel duty isn't. I don't pay VAT on my council tax, or my income
tax.
Shhhhhhh - you'll be giving them ideas!! 
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02GF74
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 11:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
quote:
Originally posted by morcus
VAT is meant to be a luxury tax, you can argue that fuel is a luxury but fuel duty isn't. I don't pay VAT on my council tax, or my income
tax.
Shhhhhhh - you'll be giving them ideas!!
just what I was going to say.
domestic fuel e.g. gas was Vat free adn I think books were, not now they are not and not for some time.
bottom line is I have a choice boot to drink or smoke. With driving I too have a choice but it is more convenient than any other means of
transport.
On a similar not, ther was much whingeing about rising fuel costs earlier this year - has anyone's driving habbit changed since then? for
example use alternative transport, locate closer to work or buy a lower fuel consuming car?
For me, nothing really I can think.
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sonic
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 12:17 PM |
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At what point does it become to expensive to go to work!
Wages are stagnent or being reduced,jobs are fewer and more people on the dole.
Alot of people are in minimun wage jobs as there is nothing else and the employers know it.
To alot of people there car is there only bit of luxury,don't smoke or drink etc and takes them for the odd day out with the kids for a brake or
treat.
Before long you will start to see people saying sod it i will stay at home all day and sign on because after i have payed for everything i only have
x£££ a week left and i am working 50 hours aweek just to give it back to the goverment.
If at the end of the week/month when you get your pay packet you cannot afford a little bit of R and R pleasure why bother
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interestedparty
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 12:58 PM |
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WHEN
are people going to put the subject in the thread title?
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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woodster
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 06:16 PM |
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Collectively as a people we have no balls, we don't stand together anymore and say enough is enough, all we do is whimper and moan .... Unlike
the French who would go on general strike and have a bloody good riot .... I've said this before, how much does petrol have to cost to get you
to protest .... Someone will be along in a moment to tell me protesting doesn't work, how would we know we've never really tried it ......
At least the students can be bothered to travel to London.
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prawnabie
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 07:10 PM |
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will I, Will I be faaaaaamous
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 19/12/10 at 07:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sonic
To alot of people there car is there only bit of luxury,don't smoke or drink etc and takes them for the odd day out with the kids for a brake or
treat.
If at the end of the week/month when you get your pay packet you cannot afford a little bit of R and R pleasure why bother
Exactly, the fact that I don't walk the couple of miles to work, or stand outside for F knows how long is my luxury item...
Why do I bother? Mortgage... If we rented I'd be out of pocket working
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 6/1/11 at 10:40 PM |
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Finally found it again!
http://www.causes.com/causes/434764-keep-fuel-below-1-00-per-litre/members?m=9e092859
Think you might need facebook for it, but membership of something like this should be about 40 million not 200k!
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zilspeed
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| posted on 6/1/11 at 11:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by richardh
i can't see prices ever coming back down to sub £1 per litre. .
I'm still paying 90p a litre.
From a place right
here
The link above doesn't work, right ?
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 6/1/11 at 11:21 PM |
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Hamilton, South Lanarkshire...
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dlatch
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| posted on 7/1/11 at 12:42 AM |
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the fuel duty rise petrol/diesel/gas are also responsible for at least 1% rise in inflation
no wonder after a 25% rise in pump prices in such a short time
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 7/1/11 at 01:18 AM |
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Exactly, now it's gone up 2.5%, so does getting to work
And food
and electricity
and anything that involves anything that moves
Join the revolution! (I'm not even screwing around either)
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 7/1/11 at 08:23 AM |
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It's hard to cut your expenditure when you work 45 miles from home - I either go most of my journey by train (but they've just raised
prices by 6% this month) or drive.
I opted for Plan B - I handed in my notice and found myself a job that's 5 miles from home! I start on Monday...
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