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Ninehigh

posted on 11/2/11 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
"Medium diesel"

Place I'm working at has these barrels of "medium diesel"

Just looked it up and it turns out this is Red diesel.

Now, I'm here all night, on my own, and there's a hand pump sticking out of one of the barrels.

If you was in my situation, and let's say for the sake of argument that the site manager has given me permission to half-inch some overnight, would you stick a few litres in your car? I'm not talking filling the tank, just the canful (in a 60l tank)






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big_wasa

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
I shift thousands a litres a day of this stuff.

If you get spot checked they will squash your car into a cube. They even go around super markets with cotton buds and rub them around the exhaust and test it.

Never rip of the tax man its a bigger crime than murder

On the other side of it. Most cars will run fine on it and some around this way have done so for years.
Its not just white with a dye, its not aswell refined as white.

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wylliezx9r

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
Personally being the law abiding governement loving person that I am...........................I'd fill the whole fecking tank up !





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owelly

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:04 PM Reply With Quote
Don't do it! During the 2000 fuel crisis I had to queue up to get a rationed 10 litres like everyone else even though I had 2,000,000 litres or MFO (red diesel) sat at work!
It only takes a random fuel tank dip check point at some point in the future and you'll be in court for tax evasion which is a civil offence, not a motoring offence. Trained noses can smell red exhaust fumes!!





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snapper

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:06 PM Reply With Quote
Add a drop of petrol to it, it won't be red anymore





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owelly

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
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Add a drop of petrol to it, it won't be red anymore



It will still be red! You can filter it through fullers earth which will remove the dye but it will still test positive. Mixing red diesel with green diesel also removes the colour but not the dye trace!





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T66

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:20 PM Reply With Quote
Mugs game mate - pay for it like the rest of us......


Might as well not tax your car or insure it while your on.



We pay for that aswell, including those who dont bother.



You cannot mask using red diesel, if theres any doubt they will pull your filters off.



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Peteff

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
If the duty is paid on it you can use red diesel for the road but you have to prove that the duty is paid.





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thunderace

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
told my mate he was useing red he asked how the hell do you know ?
i told him i can smell it he was shocked ,
then he said he filtterd it with cat litter and it was no longer red ?
lol it was still red to me

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Ninehigh

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
It could be that easy to get caught? I've never seen anyone doing checks (even during the taxi mot where they say they check for it as part of the test)






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dave r

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
went to a off road show once, and they were checking every 4X4 in the carpark





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Ninehigh

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
So not even worth risking a small amount then... No problem






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HowardB

posted on 11/2/11 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
I've seen them doing spot checks on the Mull of Kintyre, all diesel vehicles were being stopped and checked.

I'd say it's not worth the risk.





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daviep

posted on 11/2/11 at 07:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thunderace
told my mate he was useing red he asked how the hell do you know ?
i told him i can smell it he was shocked ,
then he said he filtterd it with cat litter and it was no longer red ?
lol it was still red to me


You must have a way better nose than me then, I've worked on nearly every type of plant that runs on diesel both white and red and there is no difference to my nose.

There is a huge amount of nonsense spoken about red diesel with regard to stained filters, tanks, and fuel lines. I couldn't say that there is no chemical marker present but there is certainly no red dye left behind.

I wouldn't risk running red in any vehicle which is likely to be "dipped", so if you ever g to car auctions, farms or building sites or anywhwere else that red diesel maybe available, also wouldn't touch it if your motor looks a bit tatty especially if it's a van or 4x4.

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owelly

posted on 11/2/11 at 07:10 PM Reply With Quote
Often see tanks getting dipped at the local farmers market and there seems to be increased dipping when the gyppos are near when it comes to show season!!!
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Ninehigh

posted on 11/2/11 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
I wouldn't risk running red in any vehicle which is likely to be "dipped", so if you ever g to car auctions, farms or building sites or anywhwere else that red diesel maybe available, also wouldn't touch it if your motor looks a bit tatty especially if it's a van or 4x4.

Davie


Ah now this was my thinking, it's a normal family car

The question is I've never been tested so far (since 1997) so what are the chances of getting tested later (knowing my luck 99%)






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ali f27

posted on 11/2/11 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
Kind of all depends if you have new rangerover probs not get stopped if you have older car van will be stopped
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carpmart

posted on 11/2/11 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
I wouldn't risk running red in any vehicle which is likely to be "dipped", so if you ever g to car auctions, farms or building sites or anywhwere else that red diesel maybe available, also wouldn't touch it if your motor looks a bit tatty especially if it's a van or 4x4.

Davie


Ah now this was my thinking, it's a normal family car

The question is I've never been tested so far (since 1997) so what are the chances of getting tested later (knowing my luck 99%)


Every time you see the Rozzers you'll be looking the other way whistling and pretending to look all 'casual', your bound to get tugged!





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Ninehigh

posted on 11/2/11 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
To be fair I've done worse things while driving






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skydivepaul

posted on 11/2/11 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ali f27
Kind of all depends if you have new rangerover probs not get stopped if you have older car van will be stopped


if you can afford a new rangerover you probably wont give a crap about the price of fuel





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zilspeed

posted on 11/2/11 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
I once got dipped for red diesel.

Driving, a police bike told me to follow him to an area where Vosa were dpping tanks.

I was driving an unmarked white transit.
After they had dipped the tank, I told them that I worked for the council and it was an unmarked hire van so I would be pretty surprised if there was any red in the tank, which was the truth.

They gave me the 'not impressed, why didn't you say earlier' look.

Well you never asked.






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mrwibble

posted on 11/2/11 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
I once got dipped for red diesel.

Driving, a police bike told me to follow him to an area where Vosa were dpping tanks.

I was driving an unmarked white transit.
After they had dipped the tank, I told them that I worked for the council and it was an unmarked hire van so I would be pretty surprised if there was any red in the tank, which was the truth.

They gave me the 'not impressed, why didn't you say earlier' look.

Well you never asked.


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steve m

posted on 11/2/11 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
I might use red diesel, and if stopped , say its a reflection, of my colorado red diesel mondeo

hahahaha

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Ninehigh

posted on 11/2/11 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
I once saw it advertised in a station at about 25p/l.. I thought if I got caught with it I'd just say "Twenty-five pence per f**king litre officer, I'm not stupid!"






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Simon

posted on 11/2/11 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
I got stopped in my Range Rover and they dipped the tank.

Funny thing was it was petrol with dodgy exhaust, they just had to carry on once they started

ATB

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