scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:04 PM |
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Front Engine Kit Chassis Converted to Midi Layout???
Has anyone ever taken a front engined kit chassis and converted it to midi?
My tiny brain is in overdrive again and I've come to the (temporary) conclusion that it should be fairly straightforward...
... measure lots
... narrow the trans tunnel
... take a bit off the front
... add a bit on the rear
Job done!!! 
Anyone have any real-world experience on such a matter (instead of my airy-fairy it's-a-piece-of p** logic ).
Or do I just buy Ed99's old Global chassis and see if I can adapt it to take a car engine!
It's Evolution Baby!
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loggyboy
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:12 PM |
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By the time you have dismanteled it, you might as well start from scratch!
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eddie99
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:12 PM |
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You buy my old global chassis and adapt it for a car engine. Sorted  Only needs extending a tad
Simples...
[Edited on 9/1/12 by eddie99]
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jossey
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
By the time you have dismanteled it, you might as well start from scratch!
+1
although your description of how easy it is to do sounds very easy.
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Has anyone ever taken a front engined kit chassis and converted it to midi?
My tiny brain is in overdrive again and I've come to the (temporary) conclusion that it should be fairly straightforward...
... measure lots
... narrow the trans tunnel
... take a bit off the front
... add a bit on the rear
Job done!!!
Anyone have any real-world experience on such a matter (instead of my airy-fairy it's-a-piece-of p** logic ).
Or do I just buy Ed99's old Global chassis and see if I can adapt it to take a car engine!
Fury Menace did exactly this - kept the old outer chassis rails and reworked the inner ones.
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
You buy my old global chassis and adapt it for a car engine. Sorted Only needs extending a tad
Simples...
I just need to get some prices for Global components to see if it's a go-er Ed... wishbones, racks, etc!
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ali f27
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:27 PM |
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If your building a chassis dont see why you couldnt narrow tunnel to get more room and move the diff mount seat panel frame part forward leaving more
at the back overall dims would be same as book but would have to narrow scuttle and shorten bonnet very interested if you have a go
ALI
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:35 PM |
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Cheers Ali
It seems quite straightforward in my head because I'd (hopefully) be starting and working within a 'straight' structure.
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TimC
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:41 PM |
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Would it not be worth looking at a MK Midi or Sylva RIOT chassis?
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ali f27
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 04:55 PM |
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Hi Scootz are you going down m6 past penrith on friday think we are going to auto sport on thursday
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 05:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by TimC
Would it not be worth looking at a MK Midi or Sylva RIOT chassis?
Probably, but I'd need to shift the registered F27 chassis before I could afford to buy a brand new chassis.
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 05:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ali f27
Hi Scootz are you going down m6 past penrith on friday think we are going to auto sport on thursday
We're flying down Ali.
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ali f27
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 05:06 PM |
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Bang on you fly striaght over me maybe you could paracute the tank out
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 05:10 PM |
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It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 05:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by TimC
Would it not be worth looking at a MK Midi or Sylva RIOT chassis?
Meant to add that I'm not all that convinced about the strength of the rear-end of the MK Midi...
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big_wasa
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 05:51 PM |
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does that mean the kv6 has been shelfed ? Did you get as far as getting the engine ? Ive just bought a very rare toy to sit on the top of mine
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zilspeed
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Would it not be worth looking at a MK Midi or Sylva RIOT chassis?
Meant to add that I'm not all that convinced about the strength of the rear-end of the MK Midi...
The ability to think in three dimensions is not given to everyone, clearly.
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:07 PM |
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Nope... KV6 is sat in my garage! 
I'm struggling to find an 'off the shelf' bellhousing to use it longitudinally, so I'm exploring the option of going
transverse in a midi set-up using either the PG1 or Getrag 283 boxes.
[Edited on 9/1/12 by scootz]
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
The ability to think in three dimensions is not given to everyone, clearly.
I can indeed think in 3D Zil, but I'm still not all that convinced that the MK back-end would be too happy with an engine / gearbox combination
sat in it that weighs 3 times that of the intended bike-engine application and puts down almost 3 times the torque.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
The ability to think in three dimensions is not given to everyone, clearly.
I can indeed think in 3D Zil, but I'm still not all that convinced that the MK back-end would be too happy with an engine / gearbox combination
sat in it that weighs 3 times that of the intended bike-engine application and puts down almost 3 times the torque.
Scootz
I wasn't talking about you.
After all, you never imposed that chassis upon the world.
I'm not a fan of this at all.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:27 PM |
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Regarding that engine.
Where do you want the weight of the car to be ?
Think of it that way.
Percentage wise, what do you want each tyre to take ?
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Scootz
I wasn't talking about you...
LOL. Stick... End... Wrong!
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Would it not be worth looking at a MK Midi or Sylva RIOT chassis?
Meant to add that I'm not all that convinced about the strength of the rear-end of the MK Midi...
The ability to think in three dimensions is not given to everyone, clearly.
That's what I thought. Welding is as good as mine too!!
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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mark chandler
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 06:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Nope... KV6 is sat in my garage!
I'm struggling to find an 'off the shelf' bellhousing to use it longitudinally, so I'm exploring the option of going
transverse in a midi set-up using either the PG1 or Getrag 283 boxes.
[Edited on 9/1/12 by scootz]
I,ve seen them in racing landrovers bolted up to Series 3 gearboxes, it was years ago cannot tell you if they had adpators
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scootz
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| posted on 9/1/12 at 07:09 PM |
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Cheers Mark.
I've established that the KV6 has the same engine to bellhousing bolt pattern as the Rover 'T' series engine... and therefore the
'O' series too... so that leaves only two RWD options. The Rover SD1 (2 litre engine variant) or the Sherpa (prima perkins engine
variant).
Neither come up for sale often, and both have anchor-heavy (20kg's) iron bellhousings.
[Edited on 9/1/12 by scootz]
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