Ham
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 05:53 AM |
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A Framing?
This weekend we are off on a longish trip with 130 other 7 owners for a 50th aniversary bash, I am looking at putting the 7 on an "A"
frame for around 300km and driving the remaining distance, I have heard that the prop "should" be removed, is this true? To remove and
re-fit the prop on the side of the road will be a ball ache! and time consuming! (X Flow with 4spd box BTW)
Cheers
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vorn
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 07:47 AM |
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Hi Ham
Funny you should bring this subject up , I am in the process of building a "A" frame for my seven.
I have talked to alot of people on the general subject (Farmers and people with motor homes that tow small cars )
I have not been told about removing the drive shaft , I do not see why you would need to do it as you would have the seven in neutral , the only time
you would need to remove the driveshaft is when the car is a automatic as they dont like being towed much over 10 kph .
Will be interested on what other people say.
Have you made a frame for your seven or have you used a off the shelf unit?
Cheers
Vaughan
[Edited on 17/7/07 by vorn]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 08:40 AM |
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I think that it's only autos that need the removal of the propshaft - the auto boxes don't like being driven the wrong way round.
You're lucky you're not in the UK - A-frames & towing dollies have a very dubious legal status (only allowed for limited mileage, and
then only for recovering a vehicle to a safe place).
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smart51
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 08:43 AM |
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the smart ForTwo hand book states that the car should not be towed for more than 30 miles in its entire life. It has an automated manual gearbox.
The only reason I can think of is that the gearbox will be spun by the propshaft if it is towed in neutral. Perhaps this is not good for some
reason.
edit:
Rather than use an 'A' frame, why not use a full trailer?
[Edited on 17-7-2007 by smart51]
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gingerprince
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 09:00 AM |
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my guess would be that you will be spinning the output of the gearbox with no oil pressure so this could cause damage. though perhaps this is more of
an issue with a bike engine since it's all the same oil unlike a car engine gearbox?
perhaps leave the car ticking over so there is oil pressure when towing? 
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vorn
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 09:15 AM |
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If I use a "A" frame I wont need to buy or build a trailer or store it and wont have to reg or wof it (mot and tax) .
Im going to put a trailer plug behind the nose cone and run the tail lights from the toe car.
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gingerprince
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 09:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by vorn
If I use a "A" frame I wont need to buy or build a trailer or store it and wont have to reg or wof it (mot and tax) .
Im going to put a trailer plug behind the nose cone and run the tail lights from the toe car.
You must have friendlier laws than here in blighty. Over here it would need tax/MOT (because some of its wheels are on the road), you could only tow
up to 40mph and you could only use it for recovery not for transportation.
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vorn
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 09:31 AM |
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thats a bit harsh ,
The car being toed by the A frame is taxed and tested . So there is no need to pay anything to use the A frame.
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Ham
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 10:11 AM |
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I have been told that the output shaft will spin, the concern is that the shaft will spin in its bearings with no oil splash to lube them, causing
them to run hot???? I have A framed numerous times but always short trips never this long.
Cheers
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Simon
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| posted on 17/7/07 at 07:03 PM |
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Best answer I can think of, is to contact one of the many classic Ford clubs as there's bound to be someone with an original Ford crossflow
owners manual, who'll give you Ford's answer on towing.
ATB
Simon
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