Hi im new...
Im looking at buying an mk indyblade, after speaking with the very helpful current owner i understand its registered as a dutton phaeton and is on a q plate. This was done so he could have the car how he wanted it? can anyone here shed some light on this for me. I have searched the forum already but found nothing.

Thanks!

Oh and can i re register it as an mk??

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It's called 'ringing' and is done to avoid the SVA/IVA test.

It's illegal, and if found out, then the car is likely to be taken from the owner and destroyed.

Avoid (unless you want to buy it and put it through a fresh IVA).

Theres plenty of Indys out there that are registered properly, wouldn't bother with this one unless it's cheap.

He's basically bought a dutton and used the v5 and chassis number on the MK to avoid sva. Meaning it's never had a proper test other than MOTs. It may well be road safe but I'd steer clear.

So basically it's a 'ringer', advice walk away.



You coud set out to registertit properly however you would have to take it apart and rebuild with IVA test and costs.

S'upt to you!

RINGER!!!!!!!!

How fast can you run?

Steve.

Glad to see a noobie with a great first question

welcome to the forum - and don't buy the car!

If its cheap and looks ok, i would buy it

Still a few k's worth of track car so if its say 2-3k buy it.

The only legal thing to do is buy it, remove the plates and ID then go through IVA.

Still a risky way to go, so just walk away and find one thats registered properly mate.

It is illegally registered as mentioned to circumvent and IVA.

It is NOT a "Ringer" that is where the ID of a car that is exactly the engine, colour, body etc etc the same is used, that car normally still existing on the road.

And not that different to somebody IVA'ing a car with an old pinto, and then upgrading to a duratec, or indeed many of the other upgrades that are done without "proper" retesting, apart from MoT. I reckon there are plenty of kitcars that havent got enough "points" after extensive work.

After all, the chap may have upgraded the car one bit at a time

OK, being pedantic, but it is not as huge an issue as it seems. But it will have an effect of value. A lot by what people think on here. But it is a kitcar, so if cheap and well buil, it could be good value.

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Originally posted by cliftyhanger
And not that different to somebody IVA'ing a car with an old pinto, and then upgrading to a duratec...

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I can sell you a correctly registered mk zx12 a lot faster than a blade powered machine

You can see why this happens. Even MOTd Dutton can be had as cheap as £500, swap the plates and VIN over, and for the cost of the a IVA test (not including transport, lost days work, retest) you sort of have a car.

I'm not just the whole IVA thing...

It's also the prospect of losing it if someone from officialdom shows an interest, or being involved in a bump and the insurance assessor spotting the obvious and not paying out!

IVA's a good thing as the car gets a better going over than at MOT. That car is a 'ringer', if it was properly built why would he try and dodge the test?

Plenty of good cars out there for sale.

As said before if its well enough built and its cheap enough it could be iva'd and it still has a good value as a track car .
Shame to lower the tone of a Dutton though and put it on an Mk.



















Only joking guys Flame suit on and ready.

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30 years ago lots of kit cars were registered as triumph heralds although it some instances just used the front uprights, its not illegal to own it, debateble to use it on the road but fine on the track.

I knew someone that ran a MkII escort on a 1968 MKI plate, he used to rally and when he re-shelled DVLA let him keep the reg as all the parts from the MK1 moved over.

Personally it would not bother me as long as you describe it correctly for insurance, tell them its registered as a dutton but has been rebuilt on a MK chassis over the years and the car has some providence it could be a cheap way into these cars.

by the time the gut has explained tht tto the insurance he is better to buy a properly registered car. Think of the extra however many years of insurance would be.