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thegodplato - 21/5/10 at 11:44 AM

Hi, not that I am going to do this, but has anyone used a Ducati engine before. They sound great and I know thats not a good enough reason but thought I'd ask anyhow!


scootz - 21/5/10 at 11:49 AM

I'm sure someone somewhere probably has, but the only reason I can think of to go ahead and do it is... well... because it came from a Ducati!

If I had to do something with a V-twin, then I'd probably go for an Aprilia or TLR lump.


franky - 21/5/10 at 12:00 PM

Which motor are you thinking of? Avoid the aircooled
lumps, a 1200cc motor would be my choice, it'd show a 1000cc 4 cyl a clean pair of heals!


scootz - 21/5/10 at 12:05 PM

In a car??? I don't think there would be much in it.


thegodplato - 21/5/10 at 12:23 PM

why not in a car? Surely if it fits in a bike, it will be OK in a car, unless its far too tall??


scootz - 21/5/10 at 12:31 PM

I was responding to Franky's suggestion of the 1200cc V-twin engine showing a Litre sportsbike engine a clean pair of heels...


iank - 21/5/10 at 01:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I was responding to Franky's suggestion of the 1200cc V-twin engine showing a Litre sportsbike engine a clean pair of heels...


Really? a 1200cc Ducati engine puts out 177bhp. I was under the impression most of the 1 litre sports bikes put out nearer 150bhp.

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_1098


r1_pete - 21/5/10 at 01:15 PM

With the desmodromic valve gear the ducati engine is tall, and in car orientation as wide too, so probably wouldn't fit in a 7 style.

I doubt the clutch would last terribly well, they don't do too well in the bike, and with the additional heat round the engine due to it being enclosed the cambelts would need more frequent attention, its frequent enough, and a PITA to replace them on the bike.


fha772 - 21/5/10 at 01:32 PM

They're a great engine, but reliability could be an issue.
As my cousin says, the reason he owns a collection of 8 Ducatis is so he is sure at least 1 will start in the morning!!


franky - 21/5/10 at 02:43 PM

Rev for rev they make quite a bit more power and torque than a modern il4 so surely that would make a standard one better suited to a car? Worth it for the noise alone! The recent ones are reliable too, with the shape of the engine I thought it'd lend its self well to a 7 chassis?


Simon - 21/5/10 at 04:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
I doubt the clutch would last terribly well,


It's a Duc, none of it will last very well. In fact every reason I can think of for not using one in a car (or a bike for that matter) is cos it's a Ducatti.

A friend bought a new Duc and it had an engine rebuild within 3k miles!

ATB

Simon


RIE - 21/5/10 at 05:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I was responding to Franky's suggestion of the 1200cc V-twin engine showing a Litre sportsbike engine a clean pair of heels...


Really? a 1200cc Ducati engine puts out 177bhp. I was under the impression most of the 1 litre sports bikes put out nearer 150bhp.

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_1098


The 1198 engine has only been around for a couple of years (firstly in the £26K 1098R, and you had to put in use the included race ECU and Termignoni exhausts to get it all), a recent I4 would manage that no problem (08-on fireblade, BMW S1000RR).

If money was no object* how about a D16RR?


*A bit of pointless phrase on LCB, maybe


oldtimer - 21/5/10 at 06:02 PM

Having had Suzuki and Ducati twins I'm also a bit dubious about their suitability, especially the Duke. Clutch fragility has already been mentioned - may be worth it for the sound alone mind......


MakeEverything - 21/5/10 at 08:40 PM

^^Ditto with old timer.

Both TLR and Ducati engines require precise operation of the clutch which (i understand) is an issue for BEC's at the best of times?

My old TLR clutch was pretty much either on or off and needed forearms like popeye to commute in traffic.