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Warning about TOYO tyres!!!!!!
tomblyth - 22/2/08 at 01:26 PM

This is quite concerning as living in the north east is always freezing! and I've just bought R888's and there very expensive as well!!!!

http://marktg.toyotires.com/file/TireStorage.pdf

[Edited on 22/2/08 by tomblyth]


Bluemoon - 22/2/08 at 01:29 PM

Nice... Not somthing you want to find out on a cold morning in the 7..

Dan


Mr Whippy - 22/2/08 at 01:32 PM

If there that shi$te I'd bin them, bet they don't have a BS number, might not be even legal to use in this country

I have stopped buying budget tyres as all have cracked in less than a year, waste of money. Plus you could end up dead all for the sake of a few pounds.


james h - 22/2/08 at 01:39 PM

Errrr... ok

I seriously hope they are playing safe with this, because I know my garage up int north Lancs is not always going to be above 0 degrees!

This is the first I have heard about this, and I am meant to collect my TD 1.2s and R888s in a week or so!

Can someone allay these fears!??!?!?


zilspeed - 22/2/08 at 01:40 PM

1) They're perfectly legal to use in this country.
2) They're very well respected - ordinarily.
3) They are not cheapies by any manner of means.

It does however demonstrate that specialist tyres like R888s should not be confused with everyday road tyres.
Looks like two sets of wheels - one with normal tyres - is the way to go with these.


Hellfire - 22/2/08 at 01:44 PM

It's more of a concern for tintops fitted with these tyres than cars like ours. In particular the R888's. Unless you're extremely hardcore, you're unlikely to be driving around in sub zero temperatures on road legal trackday tyres and even if you are, they are generally inflated to half the pressure than normal, which is one of Toyo's storage recommendations for this tyre.

They're a great tyre and this warning won't put me off using them. (Unless I happen to be doing a trackday in sub-zero temperatures)

Phil


Mr Whippy - 22/2/08 at 02:07 PM

Hmm I think I'll stick with my Michelins, there road legal race tyres and they don't do that.


itiejim - 22/2/08 at 02:21 PM

All of the track-oriented tyres are very particular about temperature and need storing correctly. Ao32s, 48s, or ACB10s are all the same.

Nothing to be worried about, but just recognise that they are made for a specific purpose - not multi-purpose.


iank - 22/2/08 at 02:26 PM

For me the issue isn't the R888's as Hellfire says they usually won't be used in those conditions but it's useful information.

But they have M/T tyres on that list with the same problem and I would expect those to be used is low temperatures.

Since that was published in California I now confidently expect a whole pile of lawsuits for Toyo which really could affect availability of the tyres in question.


David Jenkins - 22/2/08 at 03:24 PM

I wonder if the tyres get formulated differently, depending on their intended market.

It would be useful to see an equivalent message from a European source.


zilspeed - 22/2/08 at 03:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Hmm I think I'll stick with my Michelins, there road legal race tyres and they don't do that.


Like for like type of tyre ?
(Or if I may be so rude, what sort of Michelin ?)


Mr Whippy - 22/2/08 at 04:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Hmm I think I'll stick with my Michelins, there road legal race tyres and they don't do that.


Like for like type of tyre ?
(Or if I may be so rude, what sort of Michelin ?)


Michelin TB's


David Jenkins - 22/2/08 at 04:37 PM

Perhaps Toyo need some of this!


Mr Whippy - 22/2/08 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Perhaps Toyo need some of this!


That reminds me of the gauges used for calibrating machine tools. They a so accurately flat (I seem to recall being told that it was down to one molecule but I could be wrong) that if they touched the metal would weld together and they effectively become one. Oil was used to prevent that happening.


MikeRJ - 22/2/08 at 06:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Michelin TB's


This web site suggests £135 each for 175/60R13 or 185/55R13 which is hardly a few quid more than the Toyos!

This is pretty much a non-issue unless you are ultra hardcore and enjoy driving your locost around in sub-zero temperatures.


Paul TigerB6 - 22/2/08 at 06:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by james h
This is the first I have heard about this, and I am meant to collect my TD 1.2s and R888s in a week or so!




Show the article to the better half and then you can keep your lovely new wheels n tyres in the house to keep them nice and warm!!


Paul (Notts) - 22/2/08 at 07:01 PM

Thats 135 each + Vat

Paul