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Cover the 'boot' or not?
flak monkey - 8/5/07 at 09:30 AM

That is the question.

A few people have suggested that its a good idea to cover the rear of the car for sva.

Has anyone had problems passing leaving it open?

I thought about covering mine, then realised I would need an aerocap for the fuel tank if I did. Which I simply cannot afford at the moment.

I have since fitted edge trim around the inner edge of the panel, just because it neatens it up more than anything.




Comments and suggestions welcomed as always.

David

[Edited on 8/5/07 by flak monkey]


pathfinder - 8/5/07 at 09:39 AM

Looks a bit unfinished if you leave it how it is!
How about making a canvas (or similar) boot cover fixed on with poppers, that way you wouldn’t need the aero cap!


shortie - 8/5/07 at 09:40 AM

Basically you will need to cover the back, you may get away with not doing it but it's very unlikely and not worth the risk.

As for the fuel cap alot of people just make a panel with a removable bit in it that can be removed.

ReMan had a good idea and has velcroed his rear panel on, very easy to remove!

Rich.


locoboy - 8/5/07 at 09:51 AM

Why do you need an aerocap?


flak monkey - 8/5/07 at 09:55 AM

Basically if I cover the back, the fuel cap will be under the cover, and it wouldnt meet the rad requirments for SVA, thats for sure. Good idea with the removable section to get to the fuel filler though.

I will have to make a boot box eventually anyway, as i am meant to be taking it on holiday in august, and currently have nowhere to put my luggage

This obviously leads on to the next question; has anyone got any pictures of boot boxes? I had a good look at the show at various ideas, but most seemed to be using GRP boxes.

David


cryoman1965 - 8/5/07 at 10:00 AM

Use 6mm mdf cut to shape of the boot area.
Cover with vinyl material and attach with Velcro.

Should cost about £10.

HTH

Nige


Humbug - 8/5/07 at 10:01 AM

Lots of people hav emade their own. Here is my effort:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=51378


DIY Si - 8/5/07 at 10:01 AM

I may end up making one from 2mm ally sheet that a mate nicked from work. Basically just a big box that fits in with the most space possible. Mine'll probably just mount/sit on the diff mounts and the edge of the back panel. Not got any pics/plans yet, as I only started mocking one up in card recently, but should be easy to do with a few rivets or some of that very sticky 3M tape stuff.


Bluemoon - 8/5/07 at 10:03 AM

Hi David,

I think Hellfire a picture of a home made boot box on his web site..

Dan


02GF74 - 8/5/07 at 10:10 AM

dunno but either I was told on read on hear that the boot is not subject to any SVA requiements so you can have as much spikey stuff as you can fit.

I did have a boot floor for SVA but no lid and don't think the man even look in there.

without a floor the man is able to see more stuff so if the fuel/brakes etcv: look bad thne that wold cause a problem.

To be on the safe side, use some hardboard with some wood strip to stiffen it and fit on top but it will come off for the nozzle test anyway. so not sure if that means the radius gauges comes out to test your filler cap.


Howlor - 8/5/07 at 10:16 AM

David,

If you made a nice MDF one as suggested it would be quite easy to make a nice round recess and keep your current filler cap by just extending the rubber tube. That way you can easily modify to put a hinged lid in the centre and a boot box underneath. You could easily find a plastic box that you could bond under your MDF top to form the boot.

Steve


Howlor - 8/5/07 at 10:19 AM

I considered more of a half barrel lid to the bootbox to increase storage capacity that could be lifted on and off. Maybe worth a thought for your hols.

Steve


Guinness - 8/5/07 at 11:21 AM

Isn't it an SVA requirement to have a locking fuel filler cap?

Or at least a filler cap behind a lockable flap, like on a production car?

Could you achieve this by hinging the back panel and putting a cam lock on it?

Mike


flak monkey - 8/5/07 at 11:39 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions. Marks idea looks like the simplest solution to me.

Theres no SVA requirement for having a lockable fuel cap, or at least not how I read the manual. The reasons for failure just say:
Not fitted
Not secured by positive means
Not incorporating a sealing arrangement

Doesnt read like it must be lockable to me, though its probably up to interpretation.

If anyone has a lockable cap going cheap then you know where to find me


Hellfire - 8/5/07 at 11:47 AM

Here's ours.




And another angle



flak monkey - 8/5/07 at 11:49 AM

Now you are just showing off Very nice

My main problem is that the 'lid' will have to be in 3 pieces, as, unlike the MK, my rollbar is welded in . So if I have a lift up section it will only be between the two back stays.

David


trialsman - 8/5/07 at 12:03 PM

Here is my boot box. Made from 26ga galvanized steel. Real easy to make, just bend and poprivet, Russ Rescued attachment P2280295.JPG
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Howlor - 8/5/07 at 12:18 PM

U2u Quick!


02GF74 - 8/5/07 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey

My main problem is that the 'lid' will have to be in 3 pieces, as, unlike the MK, my rollbar is welded in . So if I have a lift up section it will only be between the two back stays.



that is a good too; I have 2 side panels that fit around the roolbar and hinged up middle section - you can get the locks from maplin, £ 2.50

PS saw you on the MK stand on Sun but was too scared to say hi.


flak monkey - 8/5/07 at 01:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
PS saw you on the MK stand on Sun but was too scared to say hi.


Bloody hell, I aint that scary

Thanks for the tip on the locks.


02GF74 - 8/5/07 at 01:27 PM

took me ages looking for them in B&Q or at the cash boxes in Tesco then out of deperation thought I'd look in maplins and there they were!

there's 2 sorts:
cam lock, CJ13P


and tumbler lock: CJ14Q


I opted for the slight more expensive one as it has flat keys.

if you posiotn it right, the tab should engage in a slot in the top boot rail. mine did and got stuck before I finished filing the hole - fortunately I could undo the other end but would have bee really stuck otherwise.


David Jenkins - 8/5/07 at 01:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
PS saw you on the MK stand on Sun but was too scared to say hi.


Bloody hell, I aint that scary



I even shook hands with you!


pewe - 8/5/07 at 04:42 PM

Another Formula 27 owner used a lockable deck hatch/locker from a yatch chandlers. Looked very impressive, was watertight and of course secure. Maybe not be that lo-cost but much less effort than making your own. Cheers, Pewe


jonbeedle - 8/5/07 at 05:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Thanks for all the suggestions. Marks idea looks like the simplest solution to me.

Theres no SVA requirement for having a lockable fuel cap, or at least not how I read the manual. The reasons for failure just say:
Not fitted
Not secured by positive means
Not incorporating a sealing arrangement

Doesnt read like it must be lockable to me, though its probably up to interpretation.

If anyone has a lockable cap going cheap then you know where to find me


The examiner on my SVA mentioned the locking cap or at least lockable access to it. So I gather from his comments that it is a requirement. I fitted a permanent lid to my 'boot' area and a lockable MGB fuel cap on top which I got off Ebay for a fiver.
I plan to fit a vintage style luggage rack ontop of the boot lid.
Cheers,
Jon


Mark Allanson - 8/5/07 at 07:09 PM

an alternative Rescued attachment RollBarBlue.jpg
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Mark Allanson - 8/5/07 at 07:10 PM

without the lid Rescued attachment Boot Compartment.jpg
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iank - 8/5/07 at 07:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jonbeedle

The examiner on my SVA mentioned the locking cap or at least lockable access to it. So I gather from his comments that it is a requirement. I fitted a permanent lid to my 'boot' area and a lockable MGB fuel cap on top which I got off Ebay for a fiver.
I plan to fit a vintage style luggage rack ontop of the boot lid.
Cheers,
Jon


This comes up every so often. The wording is that the cap should be secure. However in the same section it says the fuel pipes should be secure.

See this thread where it's been confirmed with at least one SVA station that it doesn't need to lock.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=48161

Now whether having a non-locking cap is sensible is another argument completely.