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Toad or a frog?
stevegough - 9/3/11 at 08:28 PM

Photo taken 10 mins ago in th'garden - anyone know which it is? and will it harm me fish? Sorry about poor pic quality...


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blakep82 - 9/3/11 at 08:31 PM

frog, i think.

frogs have smooth skin, toags have lumpy skin (not warts, and they won't give you warts either)


[Edited on 9/3/11 by blakep82]


Confused but excited. - 9/3/11 at 08:31 PM

Toad.
Frogs are green.
Remember Kermit?

Actually it's a common frog aka Rana temporaria

[Edited on 9/3/11 by Confused but excited.]


mookaloid - 9/3/11 at 08:31 PM

I think it's a frog

how big are the fish?


stevegough - 9/3/11 at 08:36 PM

Mostly my fish are between 4 and 7 inches - 18 months old. But I have at least 1 baby - just over an inch long...

Here's my pond....


Canada EH! - 9/3/11 at 09:03 PM

Just looking for a place to breed and put the eggs, Which your fish will enjoy as eggs or tadpoles. Not to worry.


plantman - 9/3/11 at 09:14 PM

Frog
Certain


jacko - 9/3/11 at 09:14 PM

I don't let frog's / toads in my pond it there is only a male frog /toad then it has been known that they get on the back of fish hold them down and drowned the fish
And that is a pregnant frog in your photo

[Edited on 9/3/11 by jacko]


plantman - 9/3/11 at 09:17 PM

Frog
Certain


v8kid - 9/3/11 at 09:34 PM

fish eat little frogs & frogs eat little fish.

after I got frogs in my fish pond there were no more fry.

Actually I was relieved when all the fish died in 09/10 - I took 5 stone of dead fish out when it thawed and the blasted heron never came back either!


austin man - 9/3/11 at 09:59 PM

Frogs can also scratch fish when swimming leading to fungal infections,


stevegough - 9/3/11 at 10:44 PM

Thanks for all the info - next question - how do I deter or otherwise get rid of it / them?


Peteff - 9/3/11 at 10:58 PM

I can't see how the frog is going to get up the wall to the pond without a lot of help. They don't jump that high so don't leave anything for it to climb up and you should be pretty safe. Jacko, how the f*$k can you drown a fish?


MikeR - 9/3/11 at 11:10 PM

forget the frog, there be dragon's by your pond - i'd worry far more about that !!!!!!


welderman - 9/3/11 at 11:19 PM

My parents used to have a large pond and kept Koi carp, one day a rather large frog was erm attached to the very expensive Koi, it had its front legs/fingers scooped into the fishes eye sockets, this then made the fish blind then it died !. Dad was rather unhappy, funny thing was mum told me she used to stick straws up bull frogs bums, blow them up and pop them ha ha.


Davey D - 10/3/11 at 07:53 AM

We seem to have frogs in our pond all year round. Nothing bad has happened to any of out fish which are between 3" and 6". One year there was a lot of spawn which i just scooped out, and put in the bin.


02GF74 - 10/3/11 at 10:46 AM

I once came across a frog that had broken down on the motorway.

























The AA came along and toad it away.


stevegough - 10/3/11 at 11:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
forget the frog, there be dragon's by your pond - i'd worry far more about that !!!!!!



MikeR - Leave Dippy alone - he's a very well behaved dragon, there to frighten the heron away (but he's also not very good at it - I've seen the heron quite a few times -window shopping).

I am following the theory that given enough depth, the fish will escape - as 2/3rds of the pond is 1.2 m deep, he hasn't had any in 18 months...

Back to the Rana Temporaria (common frog - does that mean it talks with its mouth full, and dresses all scruffy?)

Thanks for all comments - and confused but exited for naming him (her)?

Jacko is right, you know, Peteff - you can drown fish - they extract o2 out of the water wiv their gills! And I'm not convinced about it being unable to jump 18" into the pond.

Welderman - don't like the sound of frogs 'humping' my fish - would they produce frish ? But you can tell your mummy I'M not going to shove a straw up and blow it up - what if it 'backfired?'

And 02GF74 - apart from having an unpronounceable username, that's a rubbish joke - and probably politically incorrect these days - the poor frenchmen will be livid!


Oh, by the way - absolutely no sign of him/her this morning - in the garden, or in the pond - mind you, quite a few neighbours have got ponds level with the ground, too!

[Edited on 10/3/11 by stevegough]


Irony - 10/3/11 at 04:25 PM

Thats a frog. A frog will also hop whereas toads (whilst can hop) walk. Having kept koi and fish and frogs etc I think that they are best kept away from formal ponds such as yours. I don't think that there are only negatives to having frogs in your pond. However removing them is hard as frogs can sniff out water from great distances. As far as I know the nearest other pond to mines is 3/4 of a mile away and yet the bloody frogs keep coming back.

Neg

Might injury fish accidently
Might bring unwanted infection
Might eat baby fish
Frog poo in pond
Their breeding activities can instigate unwanted questions from small children


Positives

They eat slugs
Nature is nice etc
Tadpoles are funny and fish food
Scaring neighbours wife/daughter (well as a child this is what I did)


To me the negatives outweigh the somewhat lame positives, catch them and let them go at the local park etc.


jacko - 10/3/11 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
I can't see how the frog is going to get up the wall to the pond without a lot of help. They don't jump that high so don't leave anything for it to climb up and you should be pretty safe. Jacko, how the f*$k can you drown a fish?


Believe me they can jump my pond has a wall just like the one in the photo and they get in it

toads / frogs get on the back of the fish and hold them down stopping the fish from getting air [ yes fish need air/ oxygen to breath ]

[Edited on 10/3/11 by jacko]