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Mosley case ------ stranger and stranger
britishtrident - 9/7/08 at 04:34 PM

Has anybody else been following Max v News of the World -- wonderful stuff.

Evidence has been given by one of Max's own witnesses that Max was providing the financial backing for sex gang bang shows -- 30 guys to 10 girls on a stage like scenario.

"One woman can be heard on the tape saying: "But we are the Aryan race blondes".

Max Mosley said in court that "the word Aryan' should not be equated with Nazism".

JoelP - 9/7/08 at 04:37 PM

the word aryan IS associated with nazism to most people. Hilarious reading the reports though

RK - 9/7/08 at 04:38 PM

You guys have all the fun.

Mr Whippy - 9/7/08 at 04:40 PM

of course not, what ever would be the connection??

Max you have something on your face...why you remind me of someone who is it???



[Edited on 9/7/08 by Mr Whippy]

Jon Ison - 9/7/08 at 04:40 PM

TBH what Max does with his trouser snake is of no concern to me.

I would expand and say what any individual does behind closed doors is up to them and them alone, not a Max fan but its gutter press, the same press that is talking up a recession, as every teenager wielding a knife, as every mortgage owner facing repossession....................

Paul TigerB6 - 9/7/08 at 04:42 PM

Cant believe i would ever hear myself say this but i really hope the NOTW win and win convincingly!!!

How could anyone with half a brain not find Nazi connotations from the transcripts!!

Jon Ison - 9/7/08 at 04:45 PM

We better get rid of Prince Harry then ?

Come on, it was sex games, maybe not the sort we would play but games non the less, ever inadvertently watched sexcetera or the likes ? Max is normal by the standards set on there.

Fozzie - 9/7/08 at 04:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
the word aryan IS associated with nazism to most people.......


According to Wikepedia and Chambers the 'Aryan Race' IS very much a Nazi 'term'......

Fozzie

Gezza - 9/7/08 at 04:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
TBH what Max does with his trouser snake is of no concern to me.

I would expand and say what any individual does behind closed doors is up to them and them alone, not a Max fan but its gutter press, the same press that is talking up a recession, as every teenager wielding a knife, as every mortgage owner facing repossession....................



WELL SAID!!!!!!

Gezza

James - 9/7/08 at 04:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
We better get rid of Prince Harry then ?

Come on, it was sex games, maybe not the sort we would play but games non the less, ever inadvertently watched sexcetera or the likes ? Max is normal by the standards set on there.



This is of course Max Mosley, son of Oswald Mosley, leader of the black shirts (ie. pretty much the British Nazi party) during the 2nd World War.
One of Hitler's mates as you probably know.

Max used to be heavily involved in his Father's political campaigns.... but (funnily enough) has always denied he sympathised with his Father's political ideals....

....this would kind of put the lie to that!

Should someone who's got a connection like that be involved in running an international organisation?

One might also wonder if there was a connection between that and the harsh treatment of Lewis Hamilton's team Mclaren by the FIA.


Cheers,
James

Mr Whippy - 9/7/08 at 04:51 PM

those doubt the connection...just look up -

aryan-nations on the web, I wash my hands here and I'm not going to put a link to it.

scary isn't it

[Edited on 9/7/08 by Mr Whippy]

James - 9/7/08 at 04:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gezza


WELL SAID!!!!!!

Gezza


So you want a Nazi sympathiser running the FIA?

ok.

Cheers,
James

mr henderson - 9/7/08 at 04:58 PM

He has brought this on himself by suing the newspaper in the first place.

He should have ignored the whole thing (difficult I know) but doing what he has done has given everybody the opportunity to go over it again.

My mother's expression was something like 'washing one dirty linen in public'. Best not to do it.

Trouble is, everybody is so convinced that the courts, (and the world) is going to see their side of it. Witness the McCartneys.

John

Gezza - 9/7/08 at 05:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by Gezza


WELL SAID!!!!!!

Gezza


So you want a Nazi sympathiser running the FIA?

ok.

Cheers,
James


NO, what i was refering to was what people do behind closed doors is up to them, the second part of jons post is very true in my opinion.

gezza

Volvorsport - 9/7/08 at 05:07 PM

i thought prostitution was illegal ?

Jon Ison - 9/7/08 at 05:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by James


So you want a Nazi sympathiser running the FIA?

ok.

Cheers,
James



Not particulary no, but his he ? I guess we must all be very religious then as most of us may go as far as "oh god" from time to time, if you had people clinging onto and quoting (often well out of context) every word you said what could you be accused of ? a long list I bet like the rest of us.

Going back to advice from grandparents............... "don't believe anything you hear and only 1/2 you see"

StevieB - 9/7/08 at 05:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
TBH what Max does with his trouser snake is of no concern to me.

I would expand and say what any individual does behind closed doors is up to them and them alone, not a Max fan but its gutter press, the same press that is talking up a recession, as every teenager wielding a knife, as every mortgage owner facing repossession....................


I'd quite agree, and the press are terrible for hyping up bad news (convince people that there's a recession definately coming that's the worst imaginable, people will stop spending and the recession will happen as a result).

What people do behind closed doors is their own business, but I think the bigger concern is that someone with the ideals possibly in question here cannot be involved in any sporting organisation. There's enough problems of racism in sport (in general) without allowing these people to be in charge.

James - 9/7/08 at 05:26 PM

Well, there's all the stuff about people dressed prison guards, the checking for pubic lice, and head shaving for a start!

But I'll guess we'll see how the court case pans out!

Paul TigerB6 - 9/7/08 at 05:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
quote:
Originally posted by James


So you want a Nazi sympathiser running the FIA?

ok.

Cheers,
James



Not particulary no, but his he ?


His history says a great big YES!!

Benzine - 9/7/08 at 05:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i thought prostitution was illegal ?


+1

Also he's cheated on his wife who knew nothing about the whole thing, I'm sure she must have loved it when she found out about it, and his whole family. He's a massive fanny.

[Edited on 9/7/08 by Benzine]

eznfrank - 9/7/08 at 06:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i thought prostitution was illegal ?


I don't believe it is.....

Currently in the UK, prostitution is not illegal.
Soliciting, streetwalking and brothels (where more than one woman sells sex in an apartment) are illegal.
Kerb crawling is illegal in most of the UK.

In all of the UK, paying for sex with a woman is not illegal.

eznfrank - 9/7/08 at 06:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i thought prostitution was illegal ?


He's a massive fanny.

[Edited on 9/7/08 by Benzine]


PMSL

RickRick - 9/7/08 at 07:34 PM

I think what ever he wants to do in his own time is entirly up to him, and i'm sure plenty of people in more important and more public roles get up to much worse. However now it isn't his own business, but common knowledge he should leave f1 and any other public roles

Volvorsport - 9/7/08 at 09:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eznfrank
quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i thought prostitution was illegal ?


I don't believe it is.....

Currently in the UK, prostitution is not illegal.
Soliciting, streetwalking and brothels (where more than one woman sells sex in an apartment) are illegal.
Kerb crawling is illegal in most of the UK.

In all of the UK, paying for sex with a woman is not illegal.


so the group of women he was paying must be illegal then , unless only one did the deed ?

i just cant get over it ...


























that 10ft wall .

Rod Ends - 10/7/08 at 01:15 AM

veering off slightly:

quote:

I reported this exchange to a writer who had once presented Playschool before becoming something of a specialist in the chastisement arena.


[Edited on 10/7/08 by Rod Ends]

[Edited on 10/7/08 by Rod Ends]

RK - 10/7/08 at 01:43 AM

Excellent and well-written article.

andyps - 15/7/08 at 08:17 PM

As it is a judge who will decide the outcome there is quite a chance MM will win in my opinion. Had it been a jury I think it would be the other way round. The case basically hinges on whether it was in the public interest for the NOTW to print the story. As a member of the public I think it was.

I am not normally in favour of this sort of "outing", but with MM we have a person who has dished out unprecedented fines on a team based on what he described as a "suspicion", not anything factually proved, but something which may have been the case, even though the lack of evidence suggested otherwise. This is just one of many incidences where he has happily wielded his power. Then it turns out he gets his kicks from beating women in a situation which most of the public would regard as re-enacting one of mans worst atrocities against fellow man.

The double standards are quite astounding. He says it is harmless fun, not at all degrading or immoral. Yet somehow he never quite got round to mentioning the activities he has been paying for for 45 years to the person he has been married to for 48 years. If it was so harmless surely she wouldn't have minded and might have wanted to join in.

He should have gone ages ago, this is just the latest in a whole line of reasons. The charge against McLaren was bringing the sport into disrepute. Paying to go to a basement torture chamber for kicks he you had been advised that he was being watched and then making sure it becomes headlines news again later (on the technicality of it not being Nazi themed) after the first expose surely doesn't improve the image of F1. Just ask Aguri Suzuki.

omega 24 v6 - 15/7/08 at 10:27 PM

Verdict to be published next week!!! I reckon he'll lose (MM that is). If he does lose he should leave F1 and even if he won then he should leave. You cannot have a chequered past like MM and still be powerfull and high up in the FIA where International affairs and feelings are against you.
Bet R D is loving every moment of this. He's probably got a scrap book of newspaper clippings LOL