mr_pr
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posted on 28/7/11 at 10:48 AM |
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Been scammed because I have been an idiot.
Well, I never thought it would happen to me but it has happened.
I agreed to buy a laptop I had seen advertised on the net. The deal was I buy it in person, swapping cash for goods. On the day I realised I
couldn't withdraw that much (over £500) so that morning I transferred the cash to him online. The transfer was a faster payment and was through
in a few hours. I rang him to get the exact address and got no response, the number would just ring out. This continued for a day then the number was
disconnected. No contact with the guy, no cash and no laptop. Bugger.
I have rung the Police, got a crime number but they can't help any further, it is a civil issue I am told. My bank, RBS, cannot help as the
funds are gone from their reach. Barclays cannot help me unless I have a UK Court order (which I will try the ALS to help with if they can) to reverse
the funds. So, if anyone works for Barclays or the Police and may be able to help me can you PM me?
Any other advice then please fire away. I have the blokes name, old mobile number and bank account number and sort code. I basically need any contact
details for him, address, telephone....
Regards
P.S. I know I have been an idiot.
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aka_shortie
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posted on 28/7/11 at 10:58 AM |
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if you have been given a crime number then it is not a civil matter, it is a crime.
Simply, it is fraud by false representation.
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Agriv8
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:01 AM |
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is he still offering items for sale ?
Get a mate or one of us on here to pretend to be prospective customer and get the info you require.
regards
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daviep
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:08 AM |
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Can't provide any assistance but you have my sympathies.
IMO the police should be over this like a rash.
Have you tried typing his name and his phone number in to google, facebook, myspace, etc?
Davie
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jossey
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:15 AM |
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im sure someone will work for barclays and find his address for you. DPA is only a guideline lol
Thanks
David Johnson
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ReMan
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:18 AM |
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Bummer, bad luck.
But I'd agree if this aint a crime, what is?
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Mr G
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:23 AM |
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In all my time on the net only one deal has ever gone bad with the bloke taking the money and trying to disappear. I hunted him down to another forum
where he was offering graphic design services and posed as a possible customer. I got all the info i needed then sent him an email that must of put
the fear of god into him as he paid the cash back into my bank via his local branch straight away.
In my search I found pictures he'd sent into his local bbc site they had put online of sunsets. He'd taken it from his bedroom window so I
could cross reference to exactly where he lived.
So roughly people don't realise how much of a trail they leave on the net, google and the other search engines/social networking sites are your
friend. An example is putting the wording of the advert into google to see if hes put the ad anywhere else to check for other usernames/forums he
frequents etc.
I wish you the best of luck and fingers crossed your money back
Cheers
G
[Edited on 28/7/11 by Mr G]
Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a
car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes
and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it.
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Strontium Dog
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:33 AM |
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Bloody hell, and the old bill won't help! It would take getting off their arses or out of their cars to actually do something though
wouldn't it? If what has been done is not a crime then what's going on when you can get nicked for things like smoking a cigarette in the
wrong place etc.
I can see that working for a living is just not the way to get by these days, would anyone like to buy a computer as I have one for sale, cash
transfer only thank you!
PS. I really hope you get the gits address, sounds like he could use a friendly visit
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mistergrumpy
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:37 AM |
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Are you sure you have a crime number and not an incident number? A crime number is 6 numbers followed by a letter then a forward slash and in this
case 11.
Oh, you can't get "nicked for smoking a cigarette in the wrong place". It's a civil matter The council deal with that.
[Edited on 28/7/11 by mistergrumpy]
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Daddylonglegs
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:40 AM |
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Maybe we can help with the 'search' if you provide as much info as poss. Perhaps we can 'put the fear of god' into him too?
[Edited on 28/7/11 by Daddylonglegs]
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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bi22le
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:42 AM |
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Tell the police that the laptop had child porn on it, that will prick their ears up!!!
If it aint a subject in the media spot light, easy to fine or cost cutting then the police just are not interested.
Good luck though, go play bounty hunter on his ass!!
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Irony
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:46 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Mr G
In all my time on the net only one deal has ever gone bad with the bloke taking the money and trying to disappear. I hunted him down to another forum
where he was offering graphic design services and posed as a possible customer. I got all the info i needed then sent him an email that must of put
the fear of god into him as he paid the cash back into my bank via his local branch straight away.
In my search I found pictures he'd sent into his local bbc site they had put online of sunsets. He'd taken it from his bedroom window so I
could cross reference to exactly where he lived.
So roughly people don't realise how much of a trail they leave on the net, google and the other search engines/social networking sites are your
friend. An example is putting the wording of the advert into google to see if hes put the ad anywhere else to check for other usernames/forums he
frequents etc.
I wish you the best of luck and fingers crossed your money back
Cheers
G
[Edited on 28/7/11 by Mr G]
The above sounds like good advice to me. A couple of hours on the net could reveal results. Try 192.com. You have to pay some cash but it might
help.
You might have been lucky, perhaps this person was intending to mug you when you arrived to do the exchange. I have been mugged a couple of times and
it's not nice. Both times I have refused to give away my property to lowlifes and got myself beat up.
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blakep82
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posted on 28/7/11 at 11:58 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by bi22le
Tell the police that the laptop had child porn on it, that will prick their ears up!!!
If it aint a subject in the media spot light, easy to fine or cost cutting then the police just are not interested.
Good luck though, go play bounty hunter on his ass!!
you MIGHT then have to find yourself explaining to the police why you are buying a laptop full of child porn... lol
but post up his details on here, let us all have a look for him.
type his name into google, and 192.com will find info for you
pay some money and you can get the exact address, also you know the bank account numbers, you can find his branch using the sort code. contact the
branch and report a fraud case. he will then find himself under full investigation. 192.com will also tell you who else lives with him, so you can
look for them on facebook etc.
also you have his account number and sort code, why not set up a big direct debit to your favourite charity?
and ask the police if its still a civil matter if you and a few friends track him down and beat the poo out of him
[Edited on 28/7/11 by blakep82]
[Edited on 28/7/11 by blakep82]
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James
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:03 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by mr_pr
I rang him to get the exact address and got no response, the number would just ring out.
I have the blokes name, old mobile number and bank account number and sort code. I basically need any contact details for him, address,
telephone....
I have rung the Police, got a crime number but they can't help any further, it is a civil issue I am told.
P.S. I know I have been an idiot.
Unlucky!
So you've got a partial address, a full name and an old mobile number?
I would be surprised with the power of the net if you couldn't track him down. Were there any other clues given on the phone? Anything at
all?
I'd have thought with Facebook alone you might strike lucky- just with name and area he lives. Just got hold of an old friend/colleague of mine-
I knew the area he had lived (but no actual address) his firstname and a couple of variations of of his surname (he changed it when he married). I
know he likes to keep fairly anonymous but it really took me very little time to track him down to where he now works. I could even confirm it as once
I'd started to look for the surnames on the web I recognised his wife's and daughters names so it was then easier to keep track. He
doesn't have facebook- but they do! It was easy after that! lol
I really can't believe this isn't a crime! If it's illegal just to phone up someone's voicemail and "hack" it
(hah- call that hacking???
) just by using the default number, I really can't believe that this isn't illegal!
cheers,
James
P.S. I do have this sickly rich uncle in Nigeria...
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MikeFellows
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:03 PM |
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give us all the details you can
Im pretty good at this
dont waste your time with the police they are pointless
a couple of friends and some tools/knives/duct tape - I guarentee you will make a profit out of this
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mr_pr
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:09 PM |
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It might be an incident number I was given then...
XXX - n - XXXXXX
I will have a search through 192 and see what I can find first then and go from there.... Failing that his details will be on here. I just need
someone from Barclays who fancies helping me get a fraudster what he deserves!
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MikeFellows
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:15 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by mr_pr
It might be an incident number I was given then...
XXX - n - XXXXXX
I will have a search through 192 and see what I can find first then and go from there.... Failing that his details will be on here. I just need
someone from Barclays who fancies helping me get a fraudster what he deserves!
I will be amazed if anyone gives you his details from barclays - their computer systems monitor for unauthorised access (a load of people got a
bollocking/sacked of late for looking at steven gerrards)
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James
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:15 PM |
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Oh, and another story about being tracked down.
I met a bloke I'd known at work at B&Q. Talked about what we were doing now etc. etc. and then parted ways and I thought nothing more of
it.
A couple of months later I got a message from him on Friends Re-united asking me to contact him- bit weird I thought and did nothing. Then, few days
later I got a had delivered letter through the door from him asking him to contact me!
Called him up and basically he was asking how I'd got my new job, were there any others going etc. etc.
I asked him how he'd got my address... He'd tapped up some mate at the council who looked me up on the electoral role for him!
So, basically all this stuff is pretty easy to do.
Living 'off grid' and having a normal life is basically impossible- I mean, just look at John Connor in Terminator 3!
Cheers,
James
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Irony
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:17 PM |
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An old school friend of mine is a copper and he got a right telling off for looking at the criminal records of our old school friends. hehe
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blakep82
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:21 PM |
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yeah, you'll not get anyone working for barclays to get involved in this by asking off here. would have to be reported to barclays then someone
would take it on from there.
its against data protection, and they'd get a lot of trouble for it if found out.
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karlak
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:23 PM |
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"The deal was I buy it in person, swapping cash for goods. On the day I realised I couldn't withdraw that much (over £500) so that morning
I transferred the cash to him online. "
This is the bit I dont understand. If he was a scammer and there wasnt a laptop to be purchased, what would have happened at the "buy it in
person" stage. I guess they may not have turned up, mugged you or whatever. But it is not the normal Scam approach from these lowlifes.
Did they try and get you to send the money electronically in the first place or was it always going to be a Face2Face sale until the cash withdraw
issue?
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mr_pr
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:26 PM |
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Face to face until I changed my mind. That is what made me have some trust.... I guess maybe he could have mugged me? or maybe he was going to cancel
the meeting? Who knows...
Anyone got any free 192 credits on here?
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mds167
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posted on 28/7/11 at 12:45 PM |
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Hi,
Sorry to hear of your problems.
Suggest you make a complaint to Barclays - if the person is committing fraud or potentially money laundering they are obliged under their own rules to
investigate it.
They may not tell you that they are (there is a very large fine for 'tipping off' a money launderer) but they may not wish to be the bank
for that individual and if they find evidence of criminal activity they will pass it on to the authorities.
If Barclays refuse to invetigate it, see if someone like Watchdog, Daily Mail or The Guardian will take on their lack of assistance - if nothing else
it will promote the dangers of such scams to a wider audience.
Stick it to 'em any way you can.
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Doctor Derek Doctors
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posted on 28/7/11 at 01:09 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by mr_pr
Face to face until I changed my mind. That is what made me have some trust.... I guess maybe he could have mugged me? or maybe he was going to cancel
the meeting? Who knows...
Anyone got any free 192 credits on here?
Sounds like an opportunist, if you track him down he'll probably cack himself and give the money back.
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Confused but excited.
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posted on 28/7/11 at 01:23 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by James
I really can't believe this isn't a crime! If it's illegal just to phone up someone's voicemail and "hack" it
(hah- call that hacking???
) just by using the default number, I really can't believe that this isn't illegal!
cheers,
James
quote:
It's not that it isn't a crime, it's just that they can't be arsed for that small an amount.
I reported a fraud involving over £4K of public funding and the officer in the fraud squad told me "If it had another nought on it we might be
interested".
[Edited on 28/7/11 by Confused but excited.]
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