David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 08:49 PM |
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Nice start button?
I'm planning to re-wire my ignition switch in the very near future. At the moment, if the engine doesn't start I have to turn the
ignition off and on again. This is fine, but it means that I have to re-activate the immobiliser (home brew thing, so it's entirely my fault!).
A separate button would fix that problem.
So, I'm looking for a smart button, preferably with 'START' on the front. It'll need to carry the current for a crossflow
solenoid. Any ideas?
I've seen those Honda ones, but they go for stupid money on ebay so I'm looking for an alternative!
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McLannahan
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 08:52 PM |
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Savage?
or the larger one?
[Edited on 5/3/09 by McLannahan]
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maskedavenger
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 08:54 PM |
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car builders solutions do them for about a 10ner
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mr henderson
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 09:11 PM |
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The Savage ones look pretty good, but I would be happier using a relay in the circuit. Easy enough to do, and pretty cheap too.
John
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nitram38
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 09:18 PM |
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Savage good for switching 10A so as long as your solenoid trigger is less (which it most likely is) it will not need a relay.
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BenB
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 10:06 PM |
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I use a Maplins anti-vandal one for about a fiver. Works fine....
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 10:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by maskedavenger
car builders solutions do them for about a 10ner
Actually, that does look ideal... illuminated, too! £7.50 + P&P + VAT.
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contaminated
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 10:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by maskedavenger
car builders solutions do them for about a 10ner
Actually, that does look ideal... illuminated, too! £7.50 + P&P + VAT.
I use the above CBS one. For the money the quality is really good. I wired the internal light up as an ignition light - so it comes on when it needs
pressing and goes out when the car has started.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 10:25 PM |
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Another alternative. Very good quality.
Phil
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jlparsons
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 10:33 PM |
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i like the car builder solutions one. It would take just a little electric mayhem like this:
to make it pulse like a jag XF start switch too. I was thinking pulsing before engine start and permanently on when engine running? Yes, a bit
theatrical, but cool as hell. 
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paulf
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 10:35 PM |
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That looks like a telemechanique industrial switch with engine start printed on the button.We use lots of them at work but I hadnt thought of that use
for one.
Paul
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by maskedavenger
car builders solutions do them for about a 10ner
Actually, that does look ideal... illuminated, too! £7.50 + P&P + VAT.
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BenB
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| posted on 5/3/09 at 11:08 PM |
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I believe the CBS switches are the same as the Maplin anti-vandal ones just marked up 100% 
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a4gom
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| posted on 6/3/09 at 12:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
I believe the CBS switches are the same as the Maplin anti-vandal ones just marked up 100%
do you have a maplin linky or part no?
Andy
Perfect planning prevents pi$$ poor performance!
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scudderfish
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| posted on 6/3/09 at 07:18 AM |
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Click for Maplins switches
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mad4x4
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| posted on 6/3/09 at 07:54 AM |
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We used the Maplin type ones.
RS used to do them with a light in the back to make em light up
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 6/3/09 at 12:34 PM |
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The Maplin ones look nice - but I fancy having "start" on the button! 
Just placed an order for the CBS one.
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 13/10/09 at 09:38 AM |
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Quick question on the switch pictured from CBS. How are the wires attached to the switch?
Cheers
Nigel
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 13/10/09 at 11:12 AM |
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Good question!
I've forgotten, so I'll have a look tonight (still haven't fitted it, 'cos it'll only work on a thin panel, and my dash
is too thick.)
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 13/10/09 at 09:09 PM |
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Do they have one marked "Blast off"?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 13/10/09 at 09:35 PM |
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Update on the connectors - it has 4 reasonably chunky screw terminals, 2 for the switch itself, plus 2 for the LED backlight. The backlight is very
voltage-tolerant, and can be wired directly to a car's +ve supply (either way around).
As I said earlier - there is a limit on the panel thickness, which I'd guess to be around 4 or 5mm.
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neilj37
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| posted on 14/10/09 at 05:44 AM |
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I bought mine off ebay, comes complete with wiring and relay. Was easy to wire in and works a treat.
STARTER BUTTON
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ken555
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| posted on 14/10/09 at 11:15 AM |
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Question
How do they manage to integrate the on/off and start option into one button ?
At the moment I have a on/off toggle switch and a push start, but would love just have the one button.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 14/10/09 at 01:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ken555
How do they manage to integrate the on/off and start option into one button ?
At the moment I have a on/off toggle switch and a push start, but would love just have the one button.
How will you turn your ignition on and off... ie stop the car with only a start button?
You need to be able to turn the ignition (fuel pump, fire up the Tacho / instruments etc) separately to being able to turn over the engine. Do you
always want to start the engine, when using your single button idea? How will you cope with just wanting the ignition on and the engine not running,
say for faulting the electics, or just checking the fuel level or other mundane tasks?
Its two operations, and IMHO requires two separate switching functions.
I suppose you could do it with some clever electronics to toggle the ignition when pressing the start button. However this would lead to some
interesting moments, when the cars does not start (for some other reason), and you repeately press the button, thus toggling the ignition on and off
every time when you just want to turn the engine over and start it. It would need some careful thinking about.
An Ignition switch, and a Start Engine button is FAR simpler, and going to be more reliable.
Dont make it any more complicated than it needs to be. There is a HUGE amount to be said for the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid)
IMHO a column mounted Key for the ignition, and steering lock. Then a press button for the starter circuit. Very simple to do, and retains some
security.
Further to that, I would connect A VERY BIG Red "Start" button to the Instant Alarm connection on my car, and use an unmarked or a buttom
marked "Oil Level" of some other marking that you wouldnt normally press as the real start button.
Just my 2d's worth.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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scudderfish
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| posted on 14/10/09 at 02:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Further to that, I would connect A VERY BIG Red "Start" button to the Instant Alarm connection on my car
Isn't the noise of your engine firing up alarm enough?
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02GF74
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| posted on 14/10/09 at 04:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Further to that, I would connect A VERY BIG Red "Start" button to the Instant Alarm connection on my car
Isn't the noise of your engine firing up alarm enough?
I think the intention was to warn that someone is attempting to start the car as opposed to knowing that they succeded and are about to drive
away..... but I guess you knew that ...
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