A1
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:13 PM |
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what the f***?!
just look and weep...how to destroy a brilliant car even more...
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Subaru-Impreza-diesel-2009-first-photos/
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flak monkey
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:17 PM |
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Now wrong with a performance diesel  
Could do with a bit of a tweak to take it to closer to 200bhp.
You'd be suprised how quick it would be as well
Sera
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scootz
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:22 PM |
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You're not suggesting that any of the non-WRX / STi cars have EVER been even remotely attractive or appealing? 
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blakep82
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:23 PM |
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sounds pretty good to me actually. diesels are pretty good these days! better than petrol in a lot of cases
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prawnabie
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:25 PM |
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Just wait until all the WRX cars are diesel! Glory supporters come to mind lol
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:26 PM |
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Hmm, not only will it sound like a 4 pot engine running on three cylinders, but it will sound like a Taxi as well
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Now wrong with a performance diesel
Could do with a bit of a tweak to take it to closer to 200bhp.
You'd be suprised how quick it would be as well
^^Ditto.
Ive got a 130 TDCi Mondeo, and it is surprisingly well performed. Plenty of torque, and enough power for a family saloon.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
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scootz
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:39 PM |
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I remember they were doing a supermini challenge on Top-Gear and the Skoda Fabia vRS (diesel) trounced all the petrol cars with it's point to
point grunt.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 01:58 PM |
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Modern diesels are so much more refined than they use to be. Even a little Citroen C3 1.4 flies as do Audi ,VW etc without sounding like a tractor and
stopping at a petrol station every few miles. Better performance than a lot of petrol engines
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 02:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Modern diesels are so much more refined than they use to be. Even a little Citroen C3 1.4 flies as do Audi ,VW etc without sounding like a tractor and
stopping at a petrol station every few miles. Better performance than a lot of petrol engines
My girlfriend has a C3 1.4 HDI, I did'nt really want to like it but if all you want is no-nonsense transport it's hard to beat, all the go
it needs, can do long journies in comfort & the handling is fine so long as it's not pushed on to much.
Scooby have lacked a diesel in their line up for too long!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 02:19 PM |
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Only 148bhp or the impreza tho 
My mondeo is 155bhp diesel. So why didnt they get 200bhp straight out the box
About time they woke up and joined the diesel race, but they are kinda starting at the back!
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 02:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hillbillyracer
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Modern diesels are so much more refined than they use to be. Even a little Citroen C3 1.4 flies as do Audi ,VW etc without sounding like a tractor and
stopping at a petrol station every few miles. Better performance than a lot of petrol engines
My girlfriend has a C3 1.4 HDI, I did'nt really want to like it but if all you want is no-nonsense transport it's hard to beat, all the go
it needs, can do long journies in comfort & the handling is fine so long as it's not pushed on to much.
Scooby have lacked a diesel in their line up for too long!
Try the 16valve engine , well impressed.
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zetec mike
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 02:56 PM |
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Just look at the results from Lemans 24hrs for the last few years.
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 03:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
Only 148bhp or the impreza tho
My mondeo is 155bhp diesel. So why didnt they get 200bhp straight out the box
About time they woke up and joined the diesel race, but they are kinda starting at the back!
Yes the power is nothing startling but how much do you need?! Folk used to rave about the power a "red i" VW/Audi have & they were
110! Knocking on 150bhp & bags of torque in something that size won't be slow & after all why did you buy a diesel? Using the power wont
get you diesel economy, it'll never hold a candle to a 2.0 turbo but then non of the last generation Imprezza would do 50mpg.
My VW Transporter has 102bhp, so it's out-gunned by a fair few more modern vans in it's class but it's more than quick enough &
never struggles towing. It's quite easy to tweak it to 150 but there's just no need.
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BenB
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 03:33 PM |
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I quite like diesels. My Megane pulls well, does 55-60mpg and is smooth as a cucumber.
Still sounds like a turbo'd diesel though....
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 04:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I remember they were doing a supermini challenge on Top-Gear and the Skoda Fabia vRS (diesel) trounced all the petrol cars with it's point to
point grunt.
Must have missed that one, what cars was the Fabia up against?
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 04:44 PM |
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I know I keep banging on about it but I have a BMW123D which is only a 4 pot but twin turbo. It's 204bhp with diesel torque. The only issue with
any of these cars is that they run out of puff in lower gears quickly.
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iank
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 05:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I remember they were doing a supermini challenge on Top-Gear and the Skoda Fabia vRS (diesel) trounced all the petrol cars with it's point to
point grunt.
Must have missed that one, what cars was the Fabia up against?
Mini cooper
Still on the tube if you want to watch
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nstrug
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| posted on 20/9/09 at 07:39 PM |
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My 2000 BMW 330d Touring (originally 184bhp/288lbft, chipped to 225 bhp/350lbft) has 156,000 miles on the clock and has averaged 43.6mpg over the last
4 years.
I would never go back to petrol for an ordinary road car.
A 2009 330d (hopefully my next car) makes 245bhp/384lbft stock, and gets 47.9mpg on the combined cycle.
The torque and in-gear acceleration of modern diesels really needs to be experienced, the only downside of course is the lack of revs.
Nick
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carpmart
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 08:34 AM |
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I know weasils make sense but they just aint right for a performance car!
You only live once - make the most of it!
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nick205
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 01:59 PM |
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Check out the BTCC Seat TDIs - they work rather well.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 02:00 PM |
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My mum's decided she'll be sticking with her 2006 STi having tried the new Impreza yesterday. Actually her words were slightly stronger
than that but that was the outcome of the conversation.
It's the direction subaru have to move in but i'm not sure they're following the right path...
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Jasper
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 02:42 PM |
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Top Gear reviewed it and hated it, coarse and lumpy and not very good from what I remember ....
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 03:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasper
Top Gear reviewed it and hated it, coarse and lumpy and not very good from what I remember ....
No change from the std Impreza then 
A 4 cyl boxer engine is never going to be smooth
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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iank
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| posted on 21/9/09 at 03:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by carpmart
I know weasils make sense but they just aint right for a performance car!
Even when they have better performance that petrols?
I think a lot of opinions were formed back when diesels were noisy, heavy, smelly lumps in low performance non-turbo applications. The new common
rail ones are night and day compared to ones even 10 years old.
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