e46m3c
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 12:03 PM |
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BECs driftable?
Might sounds like An odd question. But could you have fun on a drift day with a BEC?
I'm looking for a new toy. Options are e46 m3 for track and drift. BEC for track sprints or a bike to go mega fast.
If BEC can drift it would be a good alternative to an m3 as should be very involving.
Thanks
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twybrow
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 12:10 PM |
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Yes of course, but they are not easy to drift. A low amount of torque, and a short wheel base make a car that can be quite snappy to hold in a drift.
Certainly I have no problem breaking traction, but things happen very fast in these cars...! A longer wheelbase generally means a car is much slower
to drift, and typically the higher torque of a decent car engine will be easier to break traction...
So yes it can be done, but it is not a natural born drift car IMHO.
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sdh2903
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 12:15 PM |
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As above not the easiest drift car, You would be better off with something turbo cec powered like an sr20det engined car or something similarly high
in torque imo for drifting.
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adithorp
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 12:23 PM |
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Having done a drift day in mine (on the drift circuit @ Oulton)... It can be done but it's not easy.
It's a low grip surface there so torque wasn't the problem (and you can just use revs anyway) The problem is with the low CoG and light
weight there's very little weight transfer to initiate the drift. BMW's were sliding all over the place at will but the Fury just wanted
to go quick. Even with the instructor driving mine (ex F3, BTCC and UK drift championship) he was working hard to get sideways. He did some impressive
laps once he'd got the hang of it but we were lapping in 1/2 the time of other cars. Getting the back out under trail-braking going in, then
smooth onto the power to keep it going meant very little margin for error.
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nick205
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 12:38 PM |
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As twybrow comments, once traction is broken, it tends to be a very quick thereafter, usually ending up backwards!
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JonnyS
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 01:19 PM |
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Depends on how they are set up. Mine was very stiff. I am no driving god, but could drift my Indy R1 all day, plenty of angle etc. No snap whatsoever.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 02:31 PM |
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I'm going to ask a really daft question then, how do Caterham do that drifting thing at Stoneleigh every year? Or is it specifically BEC's
that can be a handful to drift?
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 03:45 PM |
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I suspect the bike clutch will not enjoy it, in fact, I know it won't.... :-)
Any front engined car engined car looks a far better bet. Westlomkcaterfield, anything of that ilk. Good tyres on the front, cheap eastern tyres on
the rear.
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rdodger
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 04:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I'm going to ask a really daft question then, how do Caterham do that drifting thing at Stoneleigh every year? Or is it specifically BEC's
that can be a handful to drift?
Very stiff rear suspension
Narrow tyres at 60 psi
Big dirty cheats!
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rodgling
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| posted on 6/11/13 at 07:59 PM |
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I recommend a 7 with an M3 engine and LSD… it practically drifts itself, very very easy to control. Or any torquey, light, front-engine-RWD CEC
really. Not a turbo though, I would think the surge in torque when it comes on boost would make it very hard to manage.
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