mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 01:14 PM |
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scotlands highest recorded speedster jailed
wonder if his five year ban runs alongside his stay in the govt hotel. Theres a link on the bbc web site today 166mph ,,,,,,,,,,,,,a702
[Edited on 28-10-09 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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UncleFista
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 01:17 PM |
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Link
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 01:20 PM |
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thanks uncle
cant do links yet on this smart phone......unless some knows how 5800 nokia
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paul the 6th
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 01:34 PM |
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"A police speed check was taking place when officers were alerted by a high pitched whine from the motorcycle's engine."
..... should have bought a v-twin 
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thunderace
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 03:17 PM |
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daft to admint it .
it was not me and i dont have a green helmet and blue leathers (anymore lol)
speak to my layer im saying nothing
lets face it if your bike can do 200mph would you not try it ever
if they want you to go slower get speed limiters fited as std to all cars and bikes,oh then they wont make as much money from you.
[Edited on 28/10/09 by thunderace]
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 03:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paul the 6th
"A police speed check was taking place when officers were alerted by a high pitched whine from the motorcycle's engine."
..... should have bought a v-twin
lol
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 03:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paul the 6th
"A police speed check was taking place when officers were alerted by a high pitched whine from the motorcycle's engine."
They must get pretty twitchy when mopeds go past then...
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A1
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 05:37 PM |
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bastards. thats just plain wrong. jail is for murderers theives paedos etc. not for people who speed.
poor man.
is there any petition to free him?
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 06:08 PM |
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9 months in jail 5yr ban
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scootz
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 06:10 PM |
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I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be saying that (A1) had he smacked into one of your loved ones at Warp Speed 10 and shredded them to
pieces!
Completely stupid speed to do on the highway... we all know you get the jail at that sort of speed, so he'll just have to take his medicine and
get on with it.
It's Evolution Baby!
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02GF74
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 07:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'm fairly sure you wouldn't be saying that (A1) had he smacked into one of your loved ones at Warp Speed 10 and shredded them to
pieces!
Completely stupid speed to do on the highway... we all know you get the jail at that sort of speed, so he'll just have to take his medicine and
get on with it.
yes, but he didn't - punuishment for a crime he did not commit.
how much traffic was on the road at the time and what were the road conditions?
there are probbly many stretches of road where it is safe to do 200 mph ... not that I am advocating that at all.
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scootz
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 07:52 PM |
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Right... so by that logic it's okay to do whatever you like, so long as no one gets injured???
Not in my book! Had he killed one of my loved ones whilst riding at an an appropriate speed then I would have been obviously upset, but not with him
(assuming there was no careless / dangerous factors). Move that speed up the scale then I would want to rip his head off and sh*t down his throat... I
suspect that would be quite a common reaction. Had he done it at 160mph, then I would probably go from WANTING to kill him, to ACTUALLY killing him!
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
Yes, but he didn't - punuishment for a crime he did not commit.
He didn't get the same punishment. Had he killed someone at 160mph, then he would have been looking at quite a few years in jail... not 9
months!
It's Evolution Baby!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 28/10/09 at 08:18 PM |
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160+ on the A702, what a t***
the A701's much more fun and you don't have to drive/ride like a t*** for it to be fun
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A1
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 01:27 AM |
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yea but the bit he did it on is about 2 miles long and you can see right down the entire length of it.
none of my loved ones are silly enough to stand in the middle of a road.
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t.j.
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 07:11 AM |
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Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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02GF74
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 10:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Right... so by that logic it's okay to do whatever you like, so long as no one gets injured???
Not in my book! Had he killed one of my loved ones whilst riding at an an appropriate speed then I would have been obviously upset, but not with him
(assuming there was no careless / dangerous factors). Move that speed up the scale then I would want to rip his head off and sh*t down his throat... I
suspect that would be quite a common reaction. Had he done it at 160mph, then I would probably go from WANTING to kill him, to ACTUALLY killing him!
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
Yes, but he didn't - punuishment for a crime he did not commit.
He didn't get the same punishment. Had he killed someone at 160mph, then he would have been looking at quite a few years in jail... not 9
months!
bascialy yes - but without knowing the road, it is not possible for me to say what the speed limit should be.
let him who has never exceeded the speed limit cast the first stone.
and he didn't kill anyone so no need to speculate or make threats to kill.
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A1
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 10:38 AM |
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i used to go down that road every day, and all the near misses i saw were not because of speeding, it was people overtaking on blind summits and
bends.
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scootz
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:26 PM |
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I have NEVER speeded 
It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:27 PM |
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I have however made threats to kill...
I am a bad human being! 
It's Evolution Baby!
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tony9876
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:30 PM |
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Here we go again the age old condemn and hang the speeder. There are so many arguments for and against it is unbeleivable.
Argument 1 - In Germany which is another so called civilised nation on unrestricted roads no offence would be commited.
Argument 2 - If it is so dangerous to travel at those speeds that it warrants a 5 year ban and 9 months in prison why is acceptable for the police to
do so (even with specialist training things can and do go wrong).
Argument 3 - This guys whole life will now be down the toilet for the next 5 years or so. Is this a suitable punishment for a couple of minutes of
poor judgement. How would you feel if this was your son who's whole life had come crashing down due to a bit of stupidity.
Argument 4 - There are cases where people HAVE actually killed someone in a vehicle and received less of a sentence.
Argument 5 - As previously mentioned if speed was so dangerous it warrants these sorts of sentances than simply fit GPS trackers to all new vehicles
with auto restrictors set to the limit for that particular road. Would imagin with modern technology and big business buy downs this could be achieved
for around £100-150 per vehicle.Hey presto absolutely no speeding from new vehicles and then
they can link into insurance and taxing so we can become the complete nanny state. Hey why not retrospectively inroduce legisation to say all vehicles
will have to have this fitted by say 2013.
As for if he had killed my loved one, yes I would expect him to get royally screwed for that but I for one think the punishment does not fit the crime
in this case.
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Jasper
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tony9876
Here we go again the age old condemn and hang the speeder. There are so many arguments for and against it is unbeleivable.
Argument 1 - In Germany which is another so called civilised nation on unrestricted roads no offence would be commited.
Yes - but only on certain motorways and not on busy sections near cities, and all German vehicles are restricted to 155mph.
Argument 2 - If it is so dangerous to travel at those speeds that it warrants a 5 year ban and 9 months in prison why is acceptable for the police to
do so (even with specialist training things can and do go wrong).
Police can do a lot of things we're not allowed to do in the hope of upholding the law, that's why they're trained, in this case if
they were chasing him I doubt they would travel at these speeds to catch him, they would more likely use a helicopter.
Argument 3 - This guys whole life will now be down the toilet for the next 5 years or so. Is this a suitable punishment for a couple of minutes of
poor judgement. How would you feel if this was your son who's whole life had come crashing down due to a bit of stupidity.
It was not his first offence, he admitted to being addicted to speed, maybe he needs this to break his addiction. If it was my son I'd be
packing his bag .....
Argument 4 - There are cases where people HAVE actually killed someone in a vehicle and received less of a sentence.
But maybe they weren't driving dangerously at the time?
Argument 5 - As previously mentioned if speed was so dangerous it warrants these sorts of sentances than simply fit GPS trackers to all new vehicles
with auto restrictors set to the limit for that particular road. Would imagin with modern technology and big business buy downs this could be achieved
for around £100-150 per vehicle.Hey presto absolutely no speeding from new vehicles and then
they can link into insurance and taxing so we can become the complete nanny state. Hey why not retrospectively inroduce legisation to say all vehicles
will have to have this fitted by say 2013.
Why punish everybody to stop a few idiots? Just punish the idiots as they do now.
As for if he had killed my loved one, yes I would expect him to get royally screwed for that but I for one think the punishment does not fit the crime
in this case.
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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scootz
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:55 PM |
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Jasper - stop talking so much sense... no-one wants to hear that!
It's Evolution Baby!
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tony9876
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 12:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jasper
quote:
Originally posted by tony9876
Here we go again the age old condemn and hang the speeder. There are so many arguments for and against it is unbeleivable.
Argument 1 - In Germany which is another so called civilised nation on unrestricted roads no offence would be commited.
Yes - but only on certain motorways and not on busy sections near cities, and all German vehicles are restricted to 155mph.YES ONLY NEW GERMAN
VEHICLES WHAT ABOUT FERRARIS AND JAP BIKES ETC.
Argument 2 - If it is so dangerous to travel at those speeds that it warrants a 5 year ban and 9 months in prison why is acceptable for the police to
do so (even with specialist training things can and do go wrong).
Police can do a lot of things we're not allowed to do in the hope of upholding the law, that's why they're trained, in this case if
they were chasing him I doubt they would travel at these speeds to catch him, they would more likely use a helicopter. DOUBT OR KNOW THAT THEY
WOULDNT. THERE HAVE BEEN COUNTLESS HIGH SPEED POLICE COLLISIONS WHEN THEY SPEED THROUGH HEAVILY BUILT UP AREAS AND PACKED MORTORWAYS.
Argument 3 - This guys whole life will now be down the toilet for the next 5 years or so. Is this a suitable punishment for a couple of minutes of
poor judgement. How would you feel if this was your son who's whole life had come crashing down due to a bit of stupidity.
It was not his first offence, he admitted to being addicted to speed, maybe he needs this to break his addiction. If it was my son I'd be
packing his bag ..... GLAD I AM NOT YOUR SON
Argument 4 - There are cases where people HAVE actually killed someone in a vehicle and received less of a sentence.
But maybe they weren't driving dangerously at the time? NO JUST CARELESS DRIVING. LORRY DRIVER KILLED TWO AND GOT SUSPENDED SENTENCE AND 1YEAR
BAN
Argument 5 - As previously mentioned if speed was so dangerous it warrants these sorts of sentances than simply fit GPS trackers to all new vehicles
with auto restrictors set to the limit for that particular road. Would imagin with modern technology and big business buy downs this could be achieved
for around £100-150 per vehicle.Hey presto absolutely no speeding from new vehicles and then
they can link into insurance and taxing so we can become the complete nanny state. Hey why not retrospectively inroduce legisation to say all vehicles
will have to have this fitted by say 2013.
Why punish everybody to stop a few idiots? Just punish the idiots as they do now. IF YOU DONT SPEED WHY ARE YOU BOTHERED, NO CRIME NO PUNISHMENT?
As for if he had killed my loved one, yes I would expect him to get royally screwed for that but I for one think the punishment does not fit the crime
in this case.
Like I said guy did a stupid thing and I think a massive crippling fine would have been more appropriate.
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scootz
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 01:11 PM |
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A massive 'crippling' fine, or 15 weeks (for that's all he'll serve of his '9-month' sentence) in the Ritz...
sorry HMP Pokey... why not give him the massive 'crippling' fine AND 15 weeks in the jail... HANG HIM!
Sorry - I'm getting all Judge Dread again!
Seriously though, I think we can accept there are nobs out there who travel at ridiculous speeds to fuel their need for an adrenaline rush and who are
a a danger to other road users (you, me and those we love). As tough as it is that this chap was the fall-guy, the trial was always going to be very
high-profile, so 'the law' have used it as a platform to send out a clear message to others not to repeat his actions (and potentially
saving lives)!
I've said it before, and I'l say it again... right or wrong, WE KNOW that these sort of speeds attract a jail term, so tough-shit!
It's Evolution Baby!
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tony9876
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 01:27 PM |
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I know what you are saying but that prison sentence could totally screw his whole life up. If he want to emigrate or visit certain countries when he
is older not only does it screw him up but whoever his family is at the time.
All I am saying is who you are and what you do at 27 unless it seriously harms someone else (or worse) should not have a life lasting impact. That
said if they did it again 6 months later throw away the key because obviously lesson is not being learnt.
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