britishtrident
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posted on 20/7/13 at 05:45 PM |
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How many wishbones can a Nisan Note go through in 54,000miles
Daughters Nisan Note how may replacement front wishbones has it required in 54,000 miles ?
[Edited on 20/7/13 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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mookaloid
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posted on 20/7/13 at 06:09 PM |
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Must be a few or you wouldn't have posted this. I voted 6
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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NigeEss
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posted on 20/7/13 at 06:49 PM |
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I went with four.
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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Mr Whippy
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posted on 20/7/13 at 06:51 PM |
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Yeah I bought the wife an Nissan Almera because my bluebirds have been such sturdy well lasting cars
Huge mistake the almera is a rust bucket in comparison with very poor finish and rust protection, I've seen fiats with better
Currently welding up the front subframe that has holes all over it, seems the quality of the old cars is not there anymore
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chrism
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posted on 20/7/13 at 07:17 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Yeah I bought the wife an Nissan Almera because my bluebirds have been such sturdy well lasting cars
Huge mistake the almera is a rust bucket in comparison with very poor finish and rust protection, I've seen fiats with better
Currently welding up the front subframe that has holes all over it, seems the quality of the old cars is not there anymore
Primeras and Micras from the same age have the exact same problem, generally good cars but for some reason the front crossmembers all rot at an
alarming rate. You can tell that its a common problem as you used to be able to pickup replacement front crossmembers for about £30 with next day
delivery so there was plenty of stock.
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A little hard work never killed anyone, but why take the risk!
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daniel mason
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posted on 20/7/13 at 07:30 PM |
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steering racks are an issue also with the note. ive seen some battered examples! engines seen ok but wishbones,suspension and racks seem to take a
real beating!
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britishtrident
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posted on 20/7/13 at 08:13 PM |
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So far 6 wishbones --- 5 due to bushes 1 due ball joint + 1 road spring.
The suspension is Reanault ****.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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iceman26
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posted on 20/7/13 at 08:29 PM |
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you can get just the bushes no need for full lower arm
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iank
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posted on 20/7/13 at 08:38 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by britishtrident
So far 6 wishbones --- 5 due to bushes 1 due ball joint + 1 road spring.
The suspension is Reanault ****.
Bah, I put 7
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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big_wasa
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posted on 20/7/13 at 08:48 PM |
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I've been replacing the front drop links on the 406 every year for its mot for the last five years.
The rubber just drops to bits. infact all new rubber seems not to last.
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Slimy38
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posted on 20/7/13 at 09:05 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by britishtrident
So far 6 wishbones --- 5 due to bushes 1 due ball joint + 1 road spring.
The suspension is Reanault ****.
My Wife's Almera has recently suffered a broken spring, didn't take much to change it though. No rust on the crossmembers or subframe yet,
although I was warned about it with Nissan's.
It absolutely eats through front pads though, I really ought to get the front caliper replaced.
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trextr7monkey
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posted on 20/7/13 at 09:38 PM |
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I voted 10 because of previous poor past experiences with Mr Nissan's greed and economy with the truth!
Atb
Mike
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Mr Whippy
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posted on 20/7/13 at 10:12 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Slimy38
quote: Originally posted by britishtrident
So far 6 wishbones --- 5 due to bushes 1 due ball joint + 1 road spring.
The suspension is Reanault ****.
My Wife's Almera has recently suffered a broken spring, didn't take much to change it though. No rust on the crossmembers or subframe yet,
although I was warned about it with Nissan's.
It absolutely eats through front pads though, I really ought to get the front caliper replaced.
Well this Almera has just got two new front wings, both had rusted round the wheel arch, engine bay and underside of bonnet is just matt black base
coat with only the outer side done in the metallic paint, personally I think that's a sh£te factory paint standard.
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mookaloid
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posted on 20/7/13 at 10:34 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by britishtrident
So far 6 wishbones --- 5 due to bushes 1 due ball joint + 1 road spring.
The suspension is Reanault ****.
I voted 6 first - do I win a prize
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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SCAR
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posted on 21/7/13 at 07:27 AM |
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Yes, you win a worn out wishbone
Mazda Premacy requires new drop links every year for the mot. I cant really blame Mazda as most parts from the local motor factor are not original
manufacture just cheap copies.
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PSpirine
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posted on 21/7/13 at 11:16 AM |
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Bushes and ball joints I refuse to buy anything other than genuine parts now, and this is coming from me being a stingy bastttard. Had to swap drop
links on a 306 TWICE in a year once. Put genuine ones on and they showed no signs of wear when the engine went many months later.
You would be amazed at the difference in quality. OE-quality motor factor (generic) tends to generally last about 12 months in average use when it
comes to bushes, the rubber just disintegrates.
Best way to do it is find out who the actual manufacturer of the genuine parts is and buy those (e.g. for many early 2000 cars VAG parts were made by
ZF Lemforder - buy a Lemforder bit for a fraction of the price, and you can see where they actually grind off the VAG logo off the parts - exactly the
same bits from the same factory).
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Ninehigh
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posted on 21/7/13 at 12:14 PM |
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Six in five years worth of driving... I can't say if that's good or bad but this is what I've had to replace on my 9 year old 206 in
the past 20k miles:
Clutch
Ball joint/lower suspension arm
3 headlight bulbs
4 tyres
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theconrodkid
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posted on 21/7/13 at 02:23 PM |
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i have one of them aufully unreliable FIAT punto,s,in the last 4 years he has had 2 wiper blades and a headlight bulb
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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mookaloid
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posted on 22/7/13 at 10:21 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by theconrodkid
i have one of them aufully unreliable FIAT punto,s,in the last 4 years he has had 2 wiper blades and a headlight bulb
Fiats are good
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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theconrodkid
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posted on 23/7/13 at 07:42 AM |
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quote:Originally posted by theconrodkid
i have one of them aufully unreliable FIAT punto,s,in the last 4 years he has had 2 wiper blades and a headlight bulb
Fiats are good
Fiat,s rock !
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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mcerd1
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posted on 23/7/13 at 08:56 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by PSpirine
Bushes and ball joints I refuse to buy anything other than genuine parts now, and this is coming from me being a stingy bastttard. Had to swap drop
links on a 306 TWICE in a year once. Put genuine ones on and they showed no signs of wear when the engine went many months later.
You would be amazed at the difference in quality. OE-quality motor factor (generic) tends to generally last about 12 months in average use when it
comes to bushes, the rubber just disintegrates.
used to go through a rear bush on the front arms of my 106 every ~10k or less
eventually got that upto ~20k by buying OE buses and fitting than at the 'neutral angle' they sit at with the weight on the wheels (its a
really pain to fit them this way, but if you don't they are always sitting with a twist on them and the peel/crack much quicker)
so still not great, but I got good at changing them.....
then I got a mk1 focus and discovered it went through a set of drop links every 10k at £30 a pair
but I've since found out that ford have updated the part for both the mk1 (alloy links) and mk1.5 (steel links) - both now get a steel link with
a strange looking open plastic ball joint for £54 a side (the pattern parts have not been updated to match)
I eventually bit the bullet and paid for a pair of the fancy new ones - 45k later and they are still good
the same car has also eaten steering racks, went through 3 £120 recon ones before just getting a scrap one for £50, the scrap one has lasted 4 times
longer so far...
we now think the racks were actually getting bent and the cheap recon ones only replace seals and bushes (ford sell a recon one for ~£550 that might
be better, but its more than the car is worth!)
I have actually replaced the front arms on it too, but that was only because an arm was cheaper than the 2 bushes (the ball joints were still fine)
but I can't complain about the life of them, that was its first set at ~110k and 10 years
at 12 years old and 130k of hard miles the car is getting a bit scabby, yet its still got nearly all its original running gear - in fact its only just
had its brake pipes and first exhaust section done
I opted to do a clutch, rear drums, front capliers and front shocks to make the car feel better and easier to work on but other than that all
I've done was a set of wheel bearings and the brake pads/discs
I'm going to need a new(er) car soon - but all these stories of modern cars car making me think I'm better off which what I've got
now
[Edited on 23/7/2013 by mcerd1]
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Vindi_andy
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posted on 23/7/13 at 10:28 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Slimy38
quote: Originally posted by britishtrident
So far 6 wishbones --- 5 due to bushes 1 due ball joint + 1 road spring.
The suspension is Reanault ****.
My Wife's Almera has recently suffered a broken spring, didn't take much to change it though. No rust on the crossmembers or subframe yet,
although I was warned about it with Nissan's.
It absolutely eats through front pads though, I really ought to get the front caliper replaced.
Had a spring fail on my 406 and my dad had one go on his 605. Spoke to a guy that worked for peugeot and they knew about it but did nothing. Its
where they were hanging they up when they went for coating and they didnt touch in the bit where the hook went so it created an ingress point for
moisture.
Guess what, both springs fail in exactly the same place
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nick205
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posted on 23/7/13 at 12:01 PM |
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Clearly you're all driving your cars way to hard
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coyoteboy
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posted on 23/7/13 at 12:35 PM |
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At the opposite end of the scale - my fathers 1990 535i went to an exporter at nearly 200K miles with the original exhaust and my celica only got
replacement drop links after 23 years because the nuts corroded to the point I couldn't get them off - the links themselves were fine lol.
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whitestu
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posted on 23/7/13 at 01:32 PM |
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I've been trying to remember and I don't think I have ever needed to replace a single balljoint, bush or any other suspension component on
any of my cars since I started drving in 1983, with the exception of a spring pan on a '78 Avenger.
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