I must have been asleep! Anyone got one?
MK Stealth When did that happen?
I must have been asleep! Anyone got one?
It was at Donington show last year.
Its called Stealth for a reason!! lol
Its MKs offering for RGB 2013. I believe Danny will be show casing it on the track at Donny this weekend. MK did actually put out a prototype out
last year at Mallory at the last race of the season in RGB (i know as i was following it!). I think the car has been tweeked since to make it more
competitive.
[Edited on 19/3/13 by edsco]
Does any one have any other pictures of the HSR? I think that looks nice as well.
Stealth is a beast, move over Radical! Will be interesting to see how Danny gets on this year.
Plenty of HSR photo's on the website: http://www.mksportscars.com/hsr-gallery.html
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Originally posted by blowden86
Plenty of HSR photo's on the website: http://www.mksportscars.com/hsr-gallery.html
I'll be there doing the photography for Danny @ MK of his Stealth, and for Andy Bates @ AB of this Sabre G2...
Can't wait to see and hear them!
Not too sure to be honest. Don't think numbers are high but you're best off speaking to Danny at MK directly on that one!
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Originally posted by blowden86
Stealth is a beast, move over Radical! Will be interesting to see how Danny gets on this year.
Indeed! £35/40K for an entry level Radical or £20K for a turnkey from MK, hmm. I know what I'd go for!
me too. an AB SABRE!!
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Originally posted by blowden86
Indeed! £35/40K for an entry level Radical or £20K for a turnkey from MK, hmm. I know what I'd go for!
I'd wait till the MK beats a radical before making any negative comments on the Radical TBH.
As far as I know the only RGB car to take on the Radicals in 2012 (and beat them all in a bikesports race) was Tim Gray's Spire GT3 at
Anglesea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cLf6KM595
lI
RGB Class R will be incredibly tough in 2013. The current cars are far too well developed to expect success year 1, the Stealth will be doing really
well if it gets a top three all year.
Nice to see another make out in rgb R, fingers crossed the weather improves for Donington on Saturday
[Edited on 20/3/13 by SCAR]
If the predicted snow arrives class R will probably be won by a Blitz buggy!
Think i would second that! In fact, if the snow does arrive, i think they would have to cancel. Depends how heavy though of course. Normal wet conditions......fine. Laying snow.....hmmmmm. Just glad i have chosen to sit this weekends race out and spectate instead ;-)
Donington forecast is snow and freezing temperatures all day Friday and Saturday
I'm not saying anything negative about Radical, those boys set the lap record around the Nurburgring for a reason! Merely stating that as a
locost option, which is why we're here in the first place, the Stealth is a new offering to the market that is of course a much more affordable
alternative to the less affluent type like myself.
Danny's racing with a GSXR1000 this year so I can't see him taking on any Radicals just yet! Looking forward to getting to a race though to
see how it performs and competes against the rest in the class.
I'm sorry but with MK's history of appalling customer service I wouldn't be spending 2k let alone 20k with them even if they win every race until they buck their ideas up.
Well that did not take long to turn into a 'slate MK thread' ! This thread is about there stealth car nothing to do with customer service issues
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Originally posted by lewis
Well that did not take long to turn into a 'slate MK thread' ! This thread is about there stealth car nothing to do with customer service issues
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Originally posted by lewis
Well that did not take long to turn into a 'slate MK thread' ! This thread is about there stealth car nothing to do with customer service issues
Not seen the stealth in the flesh yet but the photos look good, anybody else recognise the bodywork yet?
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Originally posted by SCAR
anybody else recognise the bodywork yet?
Just a quick question that I haven't understood.
If it is in RGB isn't that "road going bike engined".
To be road going it would have to be capable of passing IVA.
The front lights look lower than the required 500mm? This isn't the only competing car that looks to have this issue.
Can anyone explain for me?
Who won almost every race last year?..................Spire
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Originally posted by matt_gsxr
Just a quick question that I haven't understood.
If it is in RGB isn't that "road going bike engined".
To be road going it would have to be capable of passing IVA.
The front lights look lower than the required 500mm? This isn't the only competing car that looks to have this issue.
Can anyone explain for me?
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Originally posted by matt_gsxr
Just a quick question that I haven't understood.
If it is in RGB isn't that "road going bike engined".
To be road going it would have to be capable of passing IVA.
The front lights look lower than the required 500mm? This isn't the only competing car that looks to have this issue.
Can anyone explain for me?
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Originally posted by slingshot2000
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Originally posted by SCAR
anybody else recognise the bodywork yet?
Are you implying that they may have copied somebody else's work ???
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Originally posted by jeffw
Because RGB has lost its way? It used to be for kit cars that where road-legal with bike engines but know we see more and more race cars being developed (Sabre, Stealth, BDN etc etc) which don't have a road-going equivalent. There just seems to be hoards of mid-engined race cars which really should be in Bike Sports but couldn't hope to compete with the Radicals of this world.
Front Bike Engined kit car series anyone ? We could call is FBEKC for short.
I appreciate there are road-going Spires and the BDN has been through IVA but the march of the mid-engine car has ruined the series.
[Edited on 21/3/13 by jeffw]
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Originally posted by SCAR
anybody else recognise the bodywork yet?
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Are you implying that they may have copied somebody else's work ???
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by blowden86
Indeed! £35/40K for an entry level Radical or £20K for a turnkey from MK, hmm. I know what I'd go for!
Depends if you want a professionally developed racing car backed up by a professional customer service... or just something that (kind-of) looks fast and is backed up with a raggedy-arsed customer service!
Personally, I would skip both and buy an AB Performance Sabre. It's professionally developed, Andy is helpful above-and-beyond the call of duty, and the car is reasonably priced.
Just saying I hope that building one wouldnt cause a kit car crisis! I am sure it wouldn't and I think the new car will be a great addition to
the grid.
As previously posted Tim Gray didnt only compete against the Radicals he beat them all (the cars first time out in Bikesports) at Anglesey in an RGB
car with slicks added and no aero.
And the GT3 didnt just win most RGB races in 2012 it won all 14 out of 14 with 14 fastest laps. Being the gents they are (Paul and Tim) they have
decided to enter a GT3 in Bikesports for the 2013 season rather than try and repeat their incredible achievements of 2012.
As soon as the weather improves its going to be a great year in RGB and Bikesports, unfortunately if it snows the results for the first race of the
season could end up being be a bit of a lottery.
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Originally posted by SCAR
Just saying I hope that building one wouldnt cause a kit car crisis!
Well having read the thread so far..... mk like ourselves And ab make a lmp style car that can be road legal for the same price as advertised as the one that can race.However it appears that certain manufacturers can not do this !!! Scar your car shares race winning dna it came out if the same shop but trust me its not the same :-( by a long shot :-(
Having played host in our workshop to both the racing versions of the gt3 and the earlier gtr we are well aware of the differences between the road
versions and the RGB entered cars. Since our students would not be allowed to race it would be foolish (and too expensive) to use all the race parts.
Race brakes and rose jointed, race efficient suspension do not make for a good road car, race tracks tend to have far fewer speed bumps and pot
holes.
I think the RGB rules require "capable of passing an MOT test" but I doubt there are more than 2 or 3 cars on the grid that would pass an
mot without at least some small adjustment or modification. As far as I know non of the other front runners in RGB (class R) have a road going
version (unaltered) of their race cars and having looked carefully at a gt3 a road version, whilst possible would probably be far too race focused to
be "practical"
Gutted about Donny we were really looking forward to seeing the new cars in action.
[Edited on 23/3/13 by SCAR]
[Edited on 23/3/13 by SCAR]
Originally posted by matt_gsxr
Just a quick question that I haven't understood.
If it is in RGB isn't that "road going bike engined".
To be road going it would have to be capable of passing IVA.
The front lights look lower than the required 500mm? This isn't the only competing car that looks to have this issue.
Can anyone explain for me?
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Because RGB has lost its way? It used to be for kit cars that where road-legal with bike engines but know we see more and more race cars being
developed (Sabre, Stealth, BDN etc etc) which don't have a road-going equivalent. There just seems to be hoards of mid-engined race cars which
really should be in Bike Sports but couldn't hope to compete with the Radicals of this world.
Front Bike Engined kit car series anyone ? We could call is FBEKC for short.
I appreciate there are road-going Spires and the BDN has been through IVA but the march of the mid-engine car has ruined the series.
[Edited on 21/3/13 by jeffw]
I can shed some light on the above issues, having run cars in both RGB and Bikesports. Firstly almost any of the mid to front running RGB cars could
easily be competitive in Bikesports, as has been proven by both the Spire and BDN winning in Bikesports on their debut meetings (both occasions were
well supported by Radicals and the like), the big difference is cost, for example to be competitive in Bikesports you really need to budget £600+ for
a set of slicks at each meeting, in RGB you can be competitive spending little more than this a season on tyres.
Second I do not think that RGB has lost its way, since its start RGB has always advertised itself as being for one-offs as well as kits, only someone
very naïve could not foresee that people producing one offs would design them to be as fast as possible within the rules, which is exactly what has
happened and is very core part of the 750mc, amateurs and small teams designing and building race cars. Obviously in the beginning it was mainly kits,
but that is simply because that was all that was available, it takes time to design and build cars.
With regard to the 500mm headlamp height, the rules do not specifically require this, as only being able to pass an MOT is required, however a number
of cars do meet the 500mm requirement even at race ride height.
Regards
Ian
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Originally posted by Lightning
Who won almost every race last year?..................Spire
The Stealth is a new Car from MK the Body work has been remodeled, it will take a season to get the balance right and make the tweaks needed as MK did with the Indy R ( a race car which nhas proven its pedigree)
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DRC INDY 7
And to also add to this who designed and builds the current spire ...........................
The current round tube chassis,when first developed by martin was built in house, as well as future ones
but that was last year and may have now passed on prodution of the chassis to spire
Maybe i should have stated build the chassis for spire
[Edited on 4/3/2013 by DRC INDY 7]
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Originally posted by SCAR
Just saying I hope that building one wouldnt cause a kit car crisis! I am sure it wouldn't and I think the new car will be a great addition to the grid.
As previously posted Tim Gray didnt only compete against the Radicals he beat them all (the cars first time out in Bikesports) at Anglesey in an RGB car with slicks added and no aero.
And the GT3 didnt just win most RGB races in 2012 it won all 14 out of 14 with 14 fastest laps. Being the gents they are (Paul and Tim) they have decided to enter a GT3 in Bikesports for the 2013 season rather than try and repeat their incredible achievements of 2012.
As soon as the weather improves its going to be a great year in RGB and Bikesports, unfortunately if it snows the results for the first race of the season could end up being be a bit of a lottery.
The current round tube chassis,when first developed by martin was built in house,...quite probable as Martin worked on the design
as well as future ones ..what?
but that was last year ..what?
and may have now passed on prodution of the chassis to spire
but you previously stated builds the current Spire
This is gibberish nonsense
For the record I have no problem with MK and wish Danny all the best and look forward to seeing the Stealth. It will be a welcome addition to the
grid. The bodywork (modified) is based on the TS400, I think it looks great, if it works well we may decide to build one.
However if you post rubbish someone is bound to question it, please re-read what you have written
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Originally posted by SCAR
The current round tube chassis,when first developed by martin was built in house,...quite probable as Martin worked on the design
as well as future ones ..what?
but that was last year ..what?
and may have now passed on prodution of the chassis to spire
but you previously stated builds the current Spire
This is gibberish nonsense
For the record I have no problem with MK and wish Danny all the best and look forward to seeing the Stealth. It will be a welcome addition to the grid. The bodywork (modified) is based on the TS400, I think it looks great, if it works well we may decide to build one.
However if you
post rubbish someone is bound to question it, please re-read what you have written
I have no way of knowing if that is true but have no problem with the accuracy of your post
(This is meant to make you laugh)
all the best
Steve
Play nicely boys! ;-)
All you need to know is.....I need a beer after reading all that.
Here we go, Danny out testing the new car a few days ago, looking good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Mdqhreb2I
Looks pretty good and quite planted.
Hope the police can't read his speedo though.
Thanks for posting the video, the car looked good, I cant wait to see it in action and its nice to see an RGB car on the road.
Roll on brands hatch at the end of the month for the 750 weekend