I have recently joined shelsley motor club(MAC) and quite fancy having a go at hillclimbing. I've had a quick flick through the blue book but
can't find anything concerning rollbar construction. I'm sure it's in there somewhere but I can't find it regarding the class my
car would be eligible for(B1 specialist production road going under 1700cc)
My car has just the single rollbar with no back stays. I fear that might rule me out of competition entirely. Am I correct in thinking this? Is it a
requirement or just a recommendation? I appreciate it is advantageous to me in case of an accident but humour me for a moment.
My thoughts are I don't want to blow a wad of cash to make the car eligible and find hillclimbs/sprinting aren't for me. I really would like
to just have a go then proceed from there. I may not enjoy it and never do it again or I may love it, get the car in the garage and it won't come
out again until it can compete with Jeffw! I won't know until I try. I could just use my focus but that doesn't interest me in the
slightest.
If it is a requirement, what could I do as a bare minimum to make the car eligible? Weld in backstays? Or is it a case of getting it chopped off and
an MSA approved rollbar installed?
I apologise for the noob questions, I have never competed before other than karts at club level, a lot of the wording in the blue book is nothing but
gobbledegook to me. I'm pretty sure I have seen mgf's/mx5's competing with no rollbar at all although I appreciate they are really
slow.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
It will need to comply with either K1.6.1 or K1.6.2. Depending on what the current roll hoop is made from it may be a case of adding back stays or might mean replacing the entire hoop. It's definitely a worthwhile addition either way, a hoop with no back stays is probably more for aesthetic purposes than anything else.
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Originally posted by Adamirish
My thoughts are I don't want to blow a wad of cash to make the car eligible and find hillclimbs/sprinting aren't for me. I really would like to just have a go then proceed from there. I may not enjoy it and never do it again or I may love it, get the car in the garage and it won't come out again until it can compete with Jeffw! I won't know until I try. I could just use my focus but that doesn't interest me in the slightest.
Thanks a lot for the replies guys, it's just as I thought. I will have to look into the costs of getting a proper rollbar made and installed.
There is a members meeting at shelsley in April which I believe isn't an MSA sanctioned event so maybe the MSA rules won't come into play.
I'll ring them and see. Hill climbing is handy for me as shelsley is only half an hour from me with loton park not much further.
Thanks for the info on the javelin sprints Jeff, I will certainly look into that. I just simply want to dip my toes in the water and try it. I am
under no illusions that I will be competitive, far from it, I just really miss competing in something.
Thanks again, much appreciated.
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To compete in an MSA sprint you will need to change the rollhoop (ROPS in MSA parlance) so it matches the references in the Bluebook that Adam (phelpsa) has mentioned. Typically this will be 45mm x 2.5mm or 50mm x 2mm CDS hoop with a cross bar and back (now also forward) stays in the same tube.
[Edited on 4/2/17 by jeffw]
Yes, that is true but it is one that gets argued about a fair bit. Funny how physics is different for older cars....
Mine looks old, does that count?
Hi
I'd recommend giving Nigel at Cougar Engineering Redditch a ring, nip along there and get him to quote you for what you need.
(NTDWM other than a very happy customer.)
He does several cars in the class (did mine too) so it'll be right - as per the above a simple hoop is just aesthetics and whatever event you go
to, having it right makes sense
At Shelsley the members day only requires that the car be road legal BTW, but obviously it's not 'competitive'
The Javlin series is a good opportunity to give competition a try but, with the best will in the world, the venue's simply aren't the same..
the buzz at Shelsley and Prescott and the sheer adrenalin pump of Loton are very different
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Originally posted by Adamirish
Mine looks old, does that count?
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Originally posted by JimSpencer
Hi
I'd recommend giving Nigel at Cougar Engineering Redditch a ring, nip along there and get him to quote you for what you need.
(NTDWM other than a very happy customer.)
He does several cars in the class (did mine too) so it'll be right - as per the above a simple hoop is just aesthetics and whatever event you go to, having it right makes sense
At Shelsley the members day only requires that the car be road legal BTW, but obviously it's not 'competitive'
The Javlin series is a good opportunity to give competition a try but, with the best will in the world, the venue's simply aren't the same.. the buzz at Shelsley and Prescott and the sheer adrenalin pump of Loton are very different
Prescott and Loton are wonderful locations
This is me rumbling up Loton last year
https://youtu.be/Jistiq593WY
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Originally posted by mark chandler
Prescott and Loton are wonderful locations
This is me rumbling up Loton last year
https://youtu.be/Jistiq593WY