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Stand alone engine oil pump
tegwin - 2/5/13 at 09:39 PM

I am trying to find a car engine oil pump to use on the lubrication system of my jet engine. Does anyone know of any oil pumps that come more or less "ready" to use. IE I can just bolt on a motor to drive it and possibly a few bits and pieces to get the oil in/out of the pump? A lot have crazy castings or require the engine block to get the oil into/out of the pump unit.

The only thing I have found so far is the VW beetle pump..Would be ideal but I wonder if there is something more complete that I can get off the shelf?

Whatever pump I use it has to be able to do the following:

150 degrees C fluid temps
50-80 Psi even when oil is hot



Beetle pump:


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steve m - 2/5/13 at 11:33 PM

xflow pump is a stand alone affair with filter, and i may have a spare one in the garage,


tegwin - 3/5/13 at 08:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by steve m
xflow pump is a stand alone affair with filter, and i may have a spare one in the garage,


That sounds interesting. Do you know if it sends all the oil through the filter or just some of it?

If you have it to hand would you mind taking some photos of it so I can get some idea of how it might work for my application?


Many thanks.


scudderfish - 3/5/13 at 08:34 AM

Hang on, JET ENGINE? More info now!


Agriv8 - 3/5/13 at 08:47 AM

have you had a read on here

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm

not cheep but woth a read !

ATB Agriv8


tegwin - 3/5/13 at 09:01 AM

Yes I had been looking at the shurflo pumps. There is one specific model that has suitable materials for hot oil.. But its £120... I know it would do the job but its rather a lot of cash!..

Can't decide if I should just spunk out on the shurflo and stop messing about experimenting...... Experimentation with other pumps could save me £50... or ruin the engine... when the pump fails


dinosaurjuice - 3/5/13 at 10:09 AM

Theres a guy with a homemade gas turbine engine who used a power steering pump. i think he used a small petrol engine to drive it, but i would have thought a cordless drill or pillar drill motor could be used.


MkIndy7 - 3/5/13 at 10:18 AM

A Danfoss oil pump from a domestic or commercial heating boiler possibly, they'll pump kerosene and diesel at pretty high pressures and are completely sealed and shaft driven so hopefully they'd pump oil too.

Found a few specs here:
http://www.danfoss.com/North_America/Products/Categories/Detail/HE-BD/Danfoss-Oil-Pumps/071N1151/11544c44-58db-44a0-9b53-59f0ec57d1a8/4bf9759b-59fa-4a 8d-bbd0-dfda86f7f3ed.html


dinosaurjuice - 3/5/13 at 10:25 AM

need to remember that pumps don't create pressure, only displacement. The flow restriction the turbo has will create the pressure. Most of these big turbos will need a few liters a minute when warm to achieve 60psi or more. oil cooler is a must too - avoid putting it on the drain side, they don't like back pressure.


tegwin - 3/5/13 at 10:28 AM

Funny you should say that..

I have a danfoss pump for the fuel oil





Their pumps seem to be only rated for fluid temps of around 70c... Not sure how well they would cope with much higher temps... seem pretty solid pumps though.

I have a nice alloy oil cooler, filter block and header tank waiting to go. Just needed a decent pump.

You are right about pumps just providing displacement. Perhaps a rotary vane pump might be better than a gear pump..hmmm

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MkIndy7 - 3/5/13 at 11:04 AM

Not sure of the pressures or temperatures they stand, but I bet plenty of people on here have them kicking round from their builds.... A power steering pump?

Might be worth a try for next to nowt, and worth fitting gauges anyway to keep an eye on pressures etc.

I'm sure there will be a use for a stand alone oil pump it's just thinking of it!.. Generators, A/C, diggers, racing cars to warm up n cool down, aeroplanes etc


MkIndy7 - 3/5/13 at 11:36 AM

Looks very promising:

Oil Pump Unit Honda CBR600 CBR 600 F3 95-98 EM11

http://bit.ly/16y73ES

Or if the link doesn't work eBay item no 260881208364