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EU referendum, IN, OUT, or UNDECIDED? No comments, just vote!!
fha772 - 1/5/16 at 09:37 PM

Hi all,

I'm just curious as to what everyone here thinks on the referendum.

I don't want anyone to comment with views or opinions, just vote "IN", "OUT", or "UNDECIDED".

That's all.

Cheers Frank.

fossett - 1/5/16 at 10:15 PM

Well, my feeling is;

I might well vote to leave, but with the current government - i think there is an extra layer of "protection" from the full raith of the daily mail gang, so I'm for staying in!!!

wylliezx9r - 1/5/16 at 11:44 PM

Out for me. I don't care if I'm 4k a year worse off in 2030 [which I seriously doubt ] - I dont like the way this country is heading.

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 07:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r
Out for me. I don't care if I'm 4k a year worse off in 2030 [which I seriously doubt ] - I dont like the way this country is heading.


Could you give some details about what you don't like about where we're heading? Because, everything that I don't like, such as increasing economic inequality, the academy plans, fracking, underfunding of the nhs, a lack of state investment (Hinckley point should be state funded) , it's all down to the tories and their failed economic ideology, not the EU.

[Edited on 2/5/16 by JoelP]

jeffw - 2/5/16 at 07:58 AM

That will be against a background of 13 years of socialist over spending and the financial collapse then, leaving the country with a massive deficit and ever increase debt. Well done the Labour Party, lets vote them in again.

907 - 2/5/16 at 08:06 AM

Frank, I just don't get your question. ?????


Quote.

I'm just curious as to what everyone here thinks

I don't want anyone to comment with views or opinions


End quote.

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 08:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
That will be against a background of 13 years of socialist over nd the financial collapse then, leaving the country with a massive deficit and ever increase debt. Well done the Labour Party, lets vote them in again.


Tony Blair was also a fan of neoliberalism. Think bank deregulation, massively expensive PFIs, privatisations. Margaret Thatcher was a fan of Blair, and regarded him (and new Labour) as her greatest achievement. This failed ideology is what we need to get away from.

Equally ,the global financial crisis was caused by fraud and scams by big banks, not overspending by any individual countr.

As an aside, does anyone else find their text gets messed up on lcb, with random spaces and letter, and the cursor jumping around? Drives me mad.

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 08:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 907
Frank, I just don't get your question. ?????


Quote.

I'm just curious as to what everyone here thinks

I don't want anyone to comment with views or opinions


End quote.


You don't always have to do what you're told!

fha772 - 2/5/16 at 08:30 AM

I suppose I should have put, how everyone plans to vote.
I'm not a wordsmith so please forgive my slight mistake.

PS, there seems to be an awful lot of comments here.
I don't want it to turn into a big debate/argument, I just wanted to see the numbers and nothing else, that's why I asked for no comments.



quote:
Originally posted by 907
Frank, I just don't get your question. ?????


Quote.

I'm just curious as to what everyone here thinks

I don't want anyone to comment with views or opinions


End quote.


[Edited on 2/5/16 by fha772]

jeffw - 2/5/16 at 08:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
That will be against a background of 13 years of socialist over nd the financial collapse then, leaving the country with a massive deficit and ever increase debt. Well done the Labour Party, lets vote them in again.


Tony Blair was also a fan of neoliberalism. Think bank deregulation, massively expensive PFIs, privatisations. Margaret Thatcher was a fan of Blair, and regarded him (and new Labour) as her greatest achievement. This failed ideology is what we need to get away from.

Equally ,the global financial crisis was caused by fraud and scams by big banks, not overspending by any individual countr.

As an aside, does anyone else find their text gets messed up on lcb, with random spaces and letter, and the cursor jumping around? Drives me mad.



Ahhhhh, a Corbanite. I wouldn't trust the current Labour party leadership with a pot plant let alone a country.

Dick Axtell - 2/5/16 at 08:44 AM

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Ahhhhh, a Corbanite. I wouldn't trust the current Labour party leadership with a pot plant let alone a country.


Well, they're not doing themselves any favours, judging by recent events. As regards EU referendum, I vote to stay in. No-one has any certain knowledge about what happens if we leave. Furthermore, it certainly won't happen in the short term; it'll take 10 - 15 years of negotiation for the UK to extract itself from EU agreements, and then to re-negotiate trade agreements with non-EU countries. Plenty of opportunity for the George Soros' of the financial world to screw the UK all over again!

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 08:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
[
Ahhhhh, a Corbanite. I wouldn't trust the current urrent Labour party leader with a pot plant let alone a country.
]

Typical of much political commentary nowadays, you haven't actually said anything there that relates to what I've said. Avoid the issues by falling back on the old 'criticise corbyn' routine.

fha772 - 2/5/16 at 08:49 AM

NO COMMENTS PLEASE!!
I don't want this to descend into a big argument!!

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 08:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dick Axtell
quote:
Ahhhhh, a Corbanite. I wouldn't trust the current Labour party leadership with a pot plant let alone a country.


Well, they're not doing themselves any favours, judging by recent events.


Interesting point Dick! I find it amazing myself that Zac Goldsmith can write an article in the mail on Sunday that suggests Kahn is a terrorist, but Livingstone gets hauled over the coals because he brought up Hitler, despite being broadly correct in what he said! There is a clear agenda in the mainstream media.

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 08:55 AM

SorryFrank. New thread started!

fha772 - 2/5/16 at 09:28 PM

I have to admit, it's a lot closer than I expected, I know it's only a few votes, but it's still quite interesting to see.

JoelP - 2/5/16 at 10:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
I have to admit, it's a lot closer than I expected, I know it's only a few votes, but it's still quite interesting to see.


I believe the out camp will win - if nothing else, it's a much simpler argument to make. Save millions every day. Much more complex to justify staying in.

fha772 - 2/5/16 at 10:34 PM

I do agree, from talking to people around my area, I haven't met anyone who is voting in.

Which does sort of worry me a bit, as when you talk to them, you can see that there hasn't been much thought, it is a gut decision with most people.

The in campaign really has got a major uphill struggle.
Their biggest problem is, most of the in supporters, such as president Obama seem to use threatening or bullying language, or scare tactics too much, which really is hurting the in Campaign.