Printable Version | Subscribe | Add to Favourites
<<  1    2    3    4    5    6    7  >>
New Topic New Poll New Reply
Author: Subject: Craig's 442E BMW powered build
james-w

posted on 18/8/16 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
If you have a close look at the diff you will see the input is off centre so is a right pain to fit.

Also epends if you will want an LSD or not as the only e39 that had one is the M5. You could look at other options like Mazda RX8 which I believe has an LSD in all models bar the automatic.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
ettore bugatti

posted on 18/8/16 at 09:56 PM Reply With Quote
Re-using the subframe could be an attractive alternative if you were building a ladder framed cruiser, but then you want to re-use the front suspension assembly as well.

You might just end up building a 6-series...

View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
ftaffy

posted on 22/8/16 at 04:57 AM Reply With Quote
Hey Mate,
I came across a list of cars which use the same size wheel bearing as an E36 on the rear (the hub can be pressed in and the shafts reused)
I have not confirmed any of this, so do your homework before using!
ALFA 33 2WD 1984-3/1989
ALFA 33 4WD 1985-1987
AUDI 100 1.9L 1974-1987
AUDI 100 1.9L 1983-9/1985
AUDI 200 1982-1984
BMW REAR 316i E36 1995-1999 (WITH TRACTION CONTROL)
BMW REAR 316ti E46 1999-2005
BMW REAR 318i E46 1998-2005
BMW REAR 318is E30 1990-1991
BMW REAR 318is E36 1992-1999
BMW REAR 318ti E46 1998-2005
BMW REAR 320i E36 1991-1995
BMW REAR 320i E46 2000-2004
BMW REAR 320ci E46 2000-2006
BMW REAR 323i E36 1996-1998
BMW REAR 323i E46 1998-2000
BMW REAR 323ci E46 1999-2002
BMW REAR 325e E30 1986-1987
BMW REAR 325i E30 1988-1990
BMW REAR 325i E36 1991-1995
BMW REAR 325i E46 2000-2004
BMW REAR 325i E90, E92, E93 2005
BMW REAR 325ci E46 2000-2006
BMW REAR 325ti E46 2002-2005
BMW REAR 328i E36, E46 1993-2000
BMW REAR 328ci E46 1999-2002
BMW REAR M 1998-2003
BMW REAR Z4 A85 2003
BMW REAR Z3 6CYL EXCEPT 3.2L 1997
MERCEDES FRONT A CLASS 168 1997-2004
PORSCHE REAR 911 IRS 1968-1973
PORSCHE FRONT 911 993 2WD & AWD 1994-1998
PORSCHE FRONT 911 996 1996-2006 (EXCEPT GT-2,GT-3)
PORSCHE FRONT BOXTER 986 2.5L, 2.7L 1997-2004
PORSCHE REAR BOXTER 986 2.5L, 2.7L 1997-2004
PORSCHE FRONT BOXTER 986 3.2L 1999-2001
PORSCHE FRONT BOXTER 986 3.2L 2002-2004

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 22/8/16 at 08:37 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ftaffy
Hey Mate,
I came across a list of cars which use the same size wheel bearing as an E36 on the rear (the hub can be pressed in and the shafts reused)
I have not confirmed any of this, so do your homework before using!


My donor is a 5-series E39, any info on the wheel bearings for that?

Cheers

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
ftaffy

posted on 22/8/16 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry forgot your not using the E36.

The E39 is a bolt on bearing pack isnt it? Thats pefect for locost application, just use the Haynes upright and modify to suit the bolt spacing on the bearing.
And check the wheel offset/scrub obviously.

From my understanding the E39 series bearing is stand alone, so you wont find an off the shelf upright that will suit your needs.

Cheers,
Taffy

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
james-w

posted on 23/8/16 at 12:00 PM Reply With Quote
Yes the E39 bearing is a standalone bolt on so it may be possible to modify the standard Haynes upright, i made custom ones for my car so I could use the wheel bearings.

If you do use the E39 wheel bearing you will need to machine the hub slightly to accept other BMW wheels or you will be limited to only using the E39 wheels due to the bore size. E39 are 74.1mm and all other wheels are 72.56m

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 24/8/16 at 04:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by james-w
Yes the E39 bearing is a standalone bolt on so it may be possible to modify the standard Haynes upright, i made custom ones for my car so I could use the wheel bearings.

If you do use the E39 wheel bearing you will need to machine the hub slightly to accept other BMW wheels or you will be limited to only using the E39 wheels due to the bore size. E39 are 74.1mm and all other wheels are 72.56m


I have chickened out of modifying the e39 hubs and have bought sierra hubs to use.

Am I wanting to use the IRS setup from the haynes roadster book or someone has suggested using Rorty IRS setup? Any comments?

Cheers

Craig

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 27/8/16 at 02:50 PM Reply With Quote
Holy crap - LA & LB had my brain hurting but fluked them in the end.....
Just love compound angle cuts

upload pictures

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 27/8/16 at 02:53 PM Reply With Quote
Chassis gone 3D, feeling chuffed :-)

upload a picture

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 1/9/16 at 06:08 AM Reply With Quote
Added a few upper rails, fitting together nicely.

Any advice on engine placement, can I have an inch of sump sticking out the bottom?

photo upload sites

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Nickp

posted on 1/9/16 at 06:33 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by craigdiver


Any advice on engine placement, can I have an inch of sump sticking out the bottom?



I positioned my M52B28 so it just to say clears the Equinox bonnet. I didn't want to start cutting the bonnet about and make it look a dogs dinner. I ended up chopping 25mm out of the bottom of the sump and even then it's still about 40mm below the bottom rails. It will be getting a substantial sump guard

Not the easiest shaped sump to modify but got there in the end. The pickup itself on has the very end modified as it would've touched the sump. I intend to fit the biggest oil cooler I can to compensate for the loss of capacity. IIRC I'm down to about 4.5 litres from the std 6litre+




View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 1/9/16 at 02:10 PM Reply With Quote
Great work Nickp, think ill opt for an inch below frame with sump guard and bulge in bonnet or a cutout displaying BMW engine covers (if it is SVA compliant?)
View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
ftaffy

posted on 5/9/16 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
Wow Nick that is fairly intensive piece of work.
Am i right to assume the M52 also has a Alloy sump? The M44 i used had once as well but i outsourced its mods to a pipe welder.

Craig - i cut 25mm off the sump + added a mustang scoop and it still hangs out the bottom of a 115mm ride height Haynes height chassis car and i have hit it hard a few times. Going to need an engine out repair soon as it leaks on cool down.
A sump guard is a good move and the direction i am going and possibly adding an accusump once i get the high speed issues (light front end, drive line vibration and an aero screen) sorted and tackle some track days.

Cheers,
Taffy

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
james-w

posted on 5/9/16 at 12:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by craigdiver
Holy crap - LA & LB had my brain hurting but fluked them in the end.....
Just love compound angle cuts

upload pictures


You will need to modify the front if you want to use a standard Haynes nosecone as its too wide at the top.

Equinox have the dimensions of all their parts on their Facebook page.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 5/9/16 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ftaffy
Wow Nick that is fairly intensive piece of work.
Am i right to assume the M52 also has a Alloy sump? The M44 i used had once as well but i outsourced its mods to a pipe welder.

Craig - i cut 25mm off the sump + added a mustang scoop and it still hangs out the bottom of a 115mm ride height Haynes height chassis car and i have hit it hard a few times. Going to need an engine out repair soon as it leaks on cool down.
A sump guard is a good move and the direction i am going and possibly adding an accusump once i get the high speed issues (light front end, drive line vibration and an aero screen) sorted and tackle some track days.

Cheers,
Taffy


Great info, I'm using the McSorley 442E chassis plans which are 50mm taller at the enging compartment, will stick 25mm of sump (with substantial sump guard) out the bottom and bulge the bonnet to fit. Still quite like the idea of a cutout showing the BMW logo'd engine covers.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 5/9/16 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by james-w
quote:
Originally posted by craigdiver
Holy crap - LA & LB had my brain hurting but fluked them in the end.....
Just love compound angle cuts

upload pictures


You will need to modify the front if you want to use a standard Haynes nosecone as its too wide at the top.

Equinox have the dimensions of all their parts on their Facebook page.


I was aware that going with the mcsorely 442E plans that the nosecone & bodywork would need to be customised (butchered!!!). 'Apparently' there are suppliers of oversized nosecones but that may be in the USA.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 7/9/16 at 04:00 PM Reply With Quote
Now got complete set of Sierra running gear, what calipers / brake discs do I fit to the front hubs, sierra ones or something else?

picture share

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 4/10/16 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
Been mega busy with work so only managed bits and pieces over the last few weeks;

Got the sierra hubs sand blasted and etch primed, thinking black, anybody tried other colours? Silver? Do I need bare metal in the tapers or is a thin coat of primer ok?



Removed BMW diff from subframe (its heavy), found the subframe to be aluminium so cannot reuse mounts, any ideas anyone?



Picked up some, very cheap - £50, ford focus zetec alloys, ET offset probably not suitable for car but will give me a rolling chassis until I win the lottery and buy some magnesium billet wheels!



Also got a load of welding done on the chassis, going to do front suspension setup then have a first trial fit if engine to determine placement of engine bay rails etc.





If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).

Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.

Volvo C30 T5 Polestar

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 4/10/16 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by james-w

You will need to modify the front if you want to use a standard Haynes nosecone as its too wide at the top.

Equinox have the dimensions of all their parts on their Facebook page.


Took your advice and modified to Haynes Roadster spec, should save some grief, thank you





If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).

Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.

Volvo C30 T5 Polestar

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Angel Acevedo

posted on 17/10/16 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
I´d leave the primer on the tapers until ready to assemble,
then a light sanding to remove.





Beware of what you wish.. for it may come true....

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 25/12/16 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
Car finished!

Well not quite, building of real car on hold due to no heating in my workshop, however, my Lego Caterham 7 model has now been built and passed my own rigorous inspection!

image hosting 10mb limit

[Edited on 25/12/16 by craigdiver]





If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).

Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.

Volvo C30 T5 Polestar

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
wylliezx9r

posted on 25/12/16 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
Excellent and nice jumper lol





I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
George Best

View User's Profile E-Mail User View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 3/1/17 at 06:52 PM Reply With Quote
Good progress over the last week, finished building 'phase 1' of my chassis and had my friend Jim (coded welder) fully weld it up. He took great pleasure ripping the poo out of my welding skills (I thought I had done ok!). Next job is to test fit engine to get engine mount placement, measurements for transmission tunnel etc., then can start building rear end.

Jim in action, makes welding look easy
photoupload

Looking good....
upload image free





If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).

Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.

Volvo C30 T5 Polestar

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
craigdiver

posted on 4/1/17 at 06:15 PM Reply With Quote
Decided to drop the engine into the engine bay to see what modifications are needed to the chassis rails to fit it in - good news is that it will fit, but holy crap, its tight! Ill post photos once I get it into its final position and onto its mounts. I'm glad I went for the modified chassis with a longer and talker engine bay.





If it ain't broken, fix it anyway (just because).

Building - BMW powered Haynes Roadster/442E hybrid.

Volvo C30 T5 Polestar

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Nickp

posted on 5/1/17 at 07:31 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by craigdiver
Decided to drop the engine into the engine bay to see what modifications are needed to the chassis rails to fit it in - good news is that it will fit, but holy crap, its tight! Ill post photos once I get it into its final position and onto its mounts. I'm glad I went for the modified chassis with a longer and talker engine bay.


You want to try a std Haynes chassis with an M52, now that is tight!! The gearbox bellhousing is probably the biggest problem. With the engine right back and central it wants to hit the driver footwell upright, but if you move it over the sump hits the lower passenger side engine bay rail even more than it already was. I shaved the lugs off the gearbox on the drivers side and managed to keep it central(ish).
I'd recommend you get a bonnet (or the finished profile of one) before you try and place your engine mounts. I did mine twice, cutting out about 1" at the 2nd attempt to squeeze it under there and leave the absolute minimum poking below. My sump, which was one of the trickier parts of the build, only lost me about 1.5ltrs of oil (leaving me at a reasonable 5ltr capacity).

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
<<  1    2    3    4    5    6    7  >>
New Topic New Poll New Reply


go to top






Website design and SEO by Studio Montage

All content © 2001-16 LocostBuilders. Reproduction prohibited
Opinions expressed in public posts are those of the author and do not necessarily represent
the views of other users or any member of the LocostBuilders team.
Running XMB 1.8 Partagium [© 2002 XMB Group] on Apache under CentOS Linux
Founded, built and operated by ChrisW.