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Lock-up Break-in
Dick Axtell - 21/1/09 at 01:14 PM

Well, finally its happened. Some theiving b*****ds have broken into my lock-up. More precisely, they used bolt-cutters to shear off the 2 padlocks.

Maybe I got a little too complacent; should have used more substantial padlocks. I noted that none of the other lock-ups had been broken into, and the use of bolt-cutters indicates a measure of pre-planning.

So far as I can tell, they took only my mig welder, (a Clarke model), and the Honda-powered generator. I guess these would be easier to sell for readies. Still pretty off-p*****g.

I'll have to mull over what to do next (apart from buying new padlocks!!).


nib1980 - 21/1/09 at 01:16 PM

electrify the door handles


NS Dev - 21/1/09 at 01:16 PM

what sort of door?

If its double swinging doors, fit Van rear door locks, those totally enclosed ones.

I keep meaning to fit them to my garage doors, weld on the bolt plates and they are then basically impossible to remove without a gas torch.


nick205 - 21/1/09 at 01:41 PM

Always gutting to here of breakins/thefts

I suspect we'll see more too as the economy worsens


02GF74 - 21/1/09 at 01:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dick Axtell

Maybe I got a little too complacent; should have used more substantial padlocks.


hey - don't blame yourself!! in ideal world ther would be no need for door locks!

B***STRDS indeed!!!

Don't wish to depress you further but once they thieves have found garage with good stuff in it, then it is likely they will return for more.

As ^^^^, fortify the door but I am not sure what you must do to guarantee it cannot be breached, find another garage? Keep stuff in house or van outside house? Move house? Sell kit ? Dunno.


C10CoryM - 21/1/09 at 02:51 PM

Alarm it. Car alarms with a DC convertor work great and give you a flashing light to warn them to **** off. Can also run them off a battery.

Even padlocks that are harder to cut are only as good as what they are locking. They often cut the metal around the padlock with the bolt cutters instead. Make sure its thick enough there.

Also, you can leave the thieves presents that give them suprises Get creative.

Good luck.


carpmart - 21/1/09 at 03:04 PM

What about a couple of these in front of the doors?

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=104750


Dangle_kt - 21/1/09 at 03:33 PM

they will have seen what you have in there - they migth be back!

Get it protected fast.

I got broke into twice in two weeks, the scum came back to finish the job.

I thought I'd secured it, but when they know what is in there - they dont mind putting some effort in.

Take stock, look at available products, ask advise (maybe on here) and then get it sorted and secured asap.

You think you feel sick now, wait till they finish the job.

SCUM! You insured?

Oh - dont eelctricfy stuff, they tell the police there are stolen goods in there after they get a shock, police have to investigate and ZAP your in court. It has happened.


TGR-ECOSSE - 21/1/09 at 03:36 PM

If they want to get in they will manage it somehow. My garage had had one door bolted shut and the other door had 2 big locks on it but they still got in and did this after nicking my Discovery alloys. I found the padlocks in the ashes still locked


tomblyth - 21/1/09 at 03:41 PM

put all the tools/valuable poo in a vanvolt bolted through its base to the floor ! then at least they will have o make loads of noise next time.


coozer - 21/1/09 at 03:50 PM

Locks need to be on the INSIDE with locking bars and gears....

A removable handle through a small hole to wind the inside mechanism shut then a stop bolt made from a 5 lever mortise lock.

All welded up, enclosed in steel with just two small holes visible outside. You could even have a remote solenoid operated shutter to slide over and block the mechanism and key holes....

Old bed frame angle iron is ideal. Its all a good worthwhile locost project for lock ups.


dhutch - 21/1/09 at 04:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
they will have seen what you have in there - they migth be back!

Get it protected fast.

I got broke into twice in two weeks, the scum came back to finish the job.

I thought I'd secured it, but when they know what is in there - they dont mind putting some effort in.

Ditto with our brick shed.
- Broke the door down using a brick (weak frame) and took a £50 bike, the first they came to.

I beefed up the frame a lot, and we invested in a heavy chain and cable locks for the bike.

Month later the obliterated the door and mortise lock with a massive hammer (from the dents it left) and got away with a brand new still brushcutter and a load of fuel. They also had a good go at the bike locks with a pair of our shears/loppers but only got half way through.
- The only upside being the strimmer was insured under contence where the bikes are an exclusion.

All while we where 20 ft away sound asleep in the house

New stimmer lives in the house!!


Daniel


deezee - 21/1/09 at 05:00 PM

At work, we have had regular incursions by gypsies and the such. We use these padlocks



And both the door and the frame has 10mm plate, with a suitable hole in it, for the bar in the lock. With the lock clasp closed, no bar is exposed, and its impossible to use bolt cutters.


BenB - 21/1/09 at 05:19 PM

oooooh I've got one like that on my garage (along with a shielded lock).....


MikeR - 21/1/09 at 05:24 PM

i got my house done and a week later someone came back. They discovered a fully alarmed house and double security lighted garden.

So they went for my shed & found nothing worth nicking (that they could lift!)

get it protected Dave & a shed alarm for a £10 may also help scare them off when they do get in.


Danozeman - 21/1/09 at 07:43 PM

I feel for you mate. Im just waiting for someone to do me over now its kinda known whats in the garage.

C**ts and b*****ds the lot of em.


Dick Axtell - 21/1/09 at 08:04 PM

Thanks for all the +ve feedback, guys. And yes, TGR-Ecosse, I remember that pic of your shed.

What disturbs me, after some reflection, is the realisation that it must have been either someone who knows me, or someone who knows someone who knows me. None of the other lock-ups were touched. They knew what was there.

New padlocks fitted, now. However, Coozer, I'm thinking about your suggestion for using an piece of internally fitted angle steel. Just gotta work out how to lock it from the outside.

Thanks again for all the ideas.


MikeRJ - 21/1/09 at 08:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dick Axtell
Thanks for all the +ve feedback, guys. And yes, TGR-Ecosse, I remember that pic of your shed.

What disturbs me, after some reflection, is the realisation that it must have been either someone who knows me, or someone who knows someone who knows me. None of the other lock-ups were touched. They knew what was there.


Perhaps they simply walked past some time ago whilst it was open and you were working?


MakeEverything - 21/1/09 at 08:27 PM

It only takes someone to spot what youre doing as they walk past and thats the motive they need.

Is the door an up and over?

I can offer some advice if you can give a bit more info. You can PM me if you like, and ill give you a buzz.

Rich.


quote:
Originally posted by Dick Axtell
Thanks for all the +ve feedback, guys. And yes, TGR-Ecosse, I remember that pic of your shed.

What disturbs me, after some reflection, is the realisation that it must have been either someone who knows me, or someone who knows someone who knows me. None of the other lock-ups were touched. They knew what was there.

New padlocks fitted, now. However, Coozer, I'm thinking about your suggestion for using an piece of internally fitted angle steel. Just gotta work out how to lock it from the outside.

Thanks again for all the ideas.


Dick Axtell - 22/1/09 at 09:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
It only takes someone to spot what youre doing as they walk past and thats the motive they need.

Is the door an up and over?

No, standard 2-door swing open. The corners have been reinforced, by a previous tenant.


DarrenW - 23/1/09 at 11:54 AM

I assume swing out? Can a security post be placed outside?


I really hate it when i hear stories like this. A mate of mine had his Range Rover pinched last week. They broke in while they were all in bed, found keys and a few of the kids electronic toys while they were on.

Luckily there was tracker fitted and he got it back the next day. Took 3 days for dealers to change all of the locks and check it over.

Police actually said its not worth hiding your keys away (just out of immediate view from outside). Had he locked the keys away they said there was a strong chance the thieves would have been waking him up to politely request them! Im really surprised his dogs didnt bark.


Fred W B - 23/1/09 at 02:20 PM

Bit off topic, but I love this story I saw on a US forum-

"Yesterday I was at a meeting with all the owner/occupiers of an industrial estate. One gentleman was recounting a story of how his unit was ram raided. The ram raid failed with the perpetrators requiring hospitalisation!

What had happened was that at the end of the working day, the workers had parked their 4 ton fork lift truck just inside the unit and pulled down the roller shutter door. So when the ram raiders drove at high speed into the roller shutter door they stopped a bit suddenly and not being seat belted in, went through the wind screen! Yahoo"

Cheers

Fred W B


DarrenW - 23/1/09 at 08:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Fred W B
Bit off topic, but I love this story I saw on a US forum-

"Yesterday I was at a meeting with all the owner/occupiers of an industrial estate. One gentleman was recounting a story of how his unit was ram raided. The ram raid failed with the perpetrators requiring hospitalisation!

What had happened was that at the end of the working day, the workers had parked their 4 ton fork lift truck just inside the unit and pulled down the roller shutter door. So when the ram raiders drove at high speed into the roller shutter door they stopped a bit suddenly and not being seat belted in, went through the wind screen! Yahoo"

Cheers

Fred W B



What a brilliant idea. Simple but certainly brilliant.


wilkingj - 24/1/09 at 11:10 AM

Good Idea... You can even use the Forklift truck as a set of garage ramps to lift the Locost to work on it.

Brill... Now I just need a bigger Garage