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Jon Ison - 4/6/09 at 06:23 PM

Did you bother to vote today ?

blakep82 - 4/6/09 at 06:27 PM

was it today? even in scotland? i don't remember getting anything about it...

don't even know what we're voting for... euro elections?

smart51 - 4/6/09 at 06:28 PM

Yup. I drive past the polling station on the way to work. There's no excuse not to really.

I voted for the party I vote for if there are no good candidates in my area. I don't really want any wierdo candidates getting in, even thought its "only" europe.

The thing that annoys me about the Euro elections is that they are by party list, the most undemocratic of the PR voting systems. The name at the top of the Labour and Tory lists is guaranteed to get in, regardless of what the majority of the voters think. similarly, the name at the bottom of the list has absolutely no chance, regardless of the voters. It is a system where the part chooses thier MEPs not the people.

Snuggs - 4/6/09 at 06:31 PM

Anyone who does not use their right to vote has NO right to complain about who is elected.

mistergrumpy - 4/6/09 at 06:32 PM

I'm of the thinking that whoever gets in, we'll all still be ignored and be told what to do by people who are massively bent and take massive backhanders so I don't waste my time.

blakep82 - 4/6/09 at 06:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I'm of the thinking that whoever gets in, we'll all still be ignored and be told what to do by people who are massively bent and take massive backhanders so I don't waste my time.


ha ha thats about right

r1_pete - 4/6/09 at 06:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by smart51

The thing that annoys me about the Euro elections is that they are by party list, the most undemocratic of the PR voting systems. The name at the top of the Labour and Tory lists is guaranteed to get in, regardless of what the majority of the voters think. similarly, the name at the bottom of the list has absolutely no chance, regardless of the voters. It is a system where the part chooses thier MEPs not the people.


and the one at the bottom cant be seen because the bottom 1" of the paper is folded over......

smart51 - 4/6/09 at 06:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
quote:
Originally posted by smart51

The thing that annoys me about the Euro elections is that they are by party list, the most undemocratic of the PR voting systems. The name at the top of the Labour and Tory lists is guaranteed to get in, regardless of what the majority of the voters think. similarly, the name at the bottom of the list has absolutely no chance, regardless of the voters. It is a system where the part chooses thier MEPs not the people.


and the one at the bottom cant be seen because the bottom 1" of the paper is folded over......


Tee Hee

Jon Ison - 4/6/09 at 06:49 PM

Well I'm not the most political person but have always taken an interest. I am so disolusioned right now, whatever your political persuasion you have been let down big style somewhere along the line.

Cant think of many (cant think of any sat here) that can hold their head up.

blakep82 - 4/6/09 at 07:02 PM

^ you're right, they're all as bad as each other. often i tend to think, no matter who you vote for, the out come will always be the same.

ulimately they all go to parliment to debate don't they? (i don't really know how it works)

pif - 4/6/09 at 07:32 PM

it is all postal voting where we are so, i voted 3 days ago. think you must vote if you want to express an opinion in the future on the elected. Frustratingly the SWMBO spoiled her paper to make a stand and to show her disapproval with the candidates.

pif

Danozeman - 4/6/09 at 07:51 PM

quote:

I'm of the thinking that whoever gets in, we'll all still be ignored and be told what to do by people who are massively bent and take massive backhanders so I don't waste my time.



Here here

Confused but excited. - 4/6/09 at 07:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Snuggs
Anyone who does not use their right to vote has NO right to complain about who is elected.


And those who did have a lot to answer for.

tegwin - 4/6/09 at 08:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by pif
it is all postal voting where we are so, i voted 3 days ago. think you must vote if you want to express an opinion in the future on the elected. Frustratingly the SWMBO spoiled her paper to make a stand and to show her disapproval with the candidates.

pif


Why is that frustrating? Your lady friend has expressed her distaste for the shite system we have... and I agree with her!

JoelP - 4/6/09 at 08:21 PM

I just wish that one of the idiots would listen and start building prisons ffs how long will it be til they realise they need to pull their finger out.

Hellfire - 4/6/09 at 08:31 PM

If any particular candidate would care to make an effort to explain to me personally what it is they are offering and why I should vote for their party, then maybe I would have voted for them.

They couldn't be bothered, so neither could I.

The next shower will be just as bad as this one but I'm not complaining........

Phil

MautoK - 4/6/09 at 08:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Snuggs
Anyone who does not use their right to vote has NO right to complain about who is elected.


I would say that it is a fundamental responsibility to assert one's vote, not a right.

maartenromijn - 4/6/09 at 08:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mistergrumpy
I'm of the thinking that whoever gets in, we'll all still be ignored and be told what to do by people who are massively bent and take massive backhanders so I don't waste my time.


Likewise. The liars will still do whatever they want.

McLannahan - 4/6/09 at 09:20 PM

I read this post and realised I had forgotten about it completely. Nipped down to vote popped home and convinced her to go down and vote too!

Thanks for the post!

Hellfire - 4/6/09 at 09:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82

ulimately they all go to parliment to debate don't they? (i don't really know how it works)


Yes that's right loads of Politicians Debating - otherwise known as a Massdebate... that's about the sum of it!!!

Steve

iank - 4/6/09 at 10:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
^ you're right, they're all as bad as each other. often i tend to think, no matter who you vote for, the out come will always be the same.

Indeed
quote:

ulimately they all go to parliment to debate don't they? (i don't really know how it works)


Not these elections, these are for local govt (where the big decisions include how often to take the bins)
And European, where they all head off to Belgium or Luxenbourg and pretend they're running the continent.

Your also wrong about the main elections, as there's no real debate about substantive issues any more. They all blather on about semicolons's and petty issues and then vote how they're told by their party executive (PM + cabinet or opposition shadow equivalents).
They occasionally get a free vote on unimportant nonsense though, to let them pretend they are running the country.

Simon - 8/6/09 at 10:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
I just wish that one of the idiots would listen and start building prisons


Nah, knock down Marble Arch and put Tyburn gallows back where they belong!

I voted, after all a lot of people fought for the right to vote. Not doing so is a disservice to them. It is, of course, also a shame that there is a "none of the above" box!

ATB

Simon

MikeR - 8/6/09 at 10:32 PM

also those that don't vote shouldn't complain for the next 4 or so years. You had your chance to make a difference, you didn't take it so tough.

mistergrumpy - 9/6/09 at 08:02 AM

Yes but as this is my country and the fact that I pay for it's upkeep and to house its MP's, I have shares, if you like and therefore can moan all I want. If I was to vote then it wouldn't be a true reflection of what I believe because it would be a case of picking the best of the worst because I don't think there's a good one amongst them so I've exercised my right to refrain and voiced my true opinion. They should have an option to vote that says "no confidence" and then they'd have monster numbers I reckon.

Benzine - 9/6/09 at 08:05 AM

"if you don't vote you can't complain"

makes pretty much no sense to me :S