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Are you an Athenian or a Visigoth.
mangogrooveworkshop - 11/9/09 at 06:07 PM

Athenians or Visigoths?



To be an Athenian is to hold knowledge and, especially the quest for knowledge in high esteem. To contemplate, to reason, to experiment, to question -- these are, to an Athenian, the most exalted activities a person can perform. To a Visigoth, the quest for knowledge is useless unless it can help you to earn money or to gain power over other people.

To be an Athenian is to cherish language because you believe it to be humankind's most precious gift. In their use of language, Athenians strive for grace, precision, and variety. And they admire those who can achieve such skill. To a Visigoth, one word is as good as another, one sentence in distinguishable from another. A Visigoth's language aspires to nothing higher than the cliché.

To be an Athenian is to understand that the thread which holds civilized society together is thin and vulnerable; therefore, Athenians place great value on tradition, social restraint, and continuity. To an Athenian, bad manners are acts of violence against the social order. The modern Visigoth cares very little about any of this. The Visigoths think of themselves as the center of the universe. Tradition exists for their own convenience, good manners are an affectation and a burden, and history is merely what is in yesterday's newspaper.

To be an Athenian is to take an interest in public affairs and the improvement of public behavior. Indeed, the ancient Athenians had a word for people who did not. The word was idiotes, from which we get our word "idiot." A modern Visigoth is interested only in his own affairs and has no sense of the meaning of community.

And, finally, to be an Athenian is to esteem the discipline, skill, and taste that are required to produce enduring art. Therefore, in approaching a work of art, Athenians prepare their imagination through learning and experience. To a Visigoth, there is no measure of artistic excellence except popularity. What catches the fancy of the multitude is good. No other standard is respected or even acknowledged by the Visigoth.

Now, it must be obvious what all of this has to do with you. Eventually, like the rest of us, you must be on one side or the other. You must be an Athenian or a Visigoth.


NeilP - 11/9/09 at 06:24 PM

Promethian actually...


Macbeast - 11/9/09 at 06:26 PM

Glaswegian.

See you, Jimmy!!

Here's tae us, wha's like us ? Gey few an' they're aw deid.

[Edited on 11/9/09 by Macbeast]


mookaloid - 11/9/09 at 06:51 PM

Yorkshireman - make of that what you will


55ant - 11/9/09 at 07:08 PM

surely it lets you know in the answer what you want to be! and what the bleep is a community?


iank - 11/9/09 at 07:45 PM

So all politicians are visigoths, that would be an interesting title for a book. At least that's what it seems to be implying.


Andi - 12/9/09 at 07:50 AM

But this is all from an Athenians point of view.


Confused but excited. - 12/9/09 at 10:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by NeilP
Promethian actually...


Ah, not just me that likes playing with fire then.......