Originally posted by scootz
Maybe the question should be... can a Type 9 be 'up-rated' to take serious abuse!
Onto a new thread...
Would like to put 400 (ish) bhp and 300 (ish) ft/lbs from front-engine to rear wheels.
It's a Audi engine, so there are no 'off-the-shelf' boxes.
I've asked previously about 'solutions' to this, but there's nothing obvious!
I know that THESE GUYS do a conversion for Audi engine to Type 9, so perhaps I should turn
my question on it's head... can a Type 9 Box be up-rated to take a lot of power? If so, any suggestions who could do the work?
Ta!
[Edited on 16/9/09 by scootz]
[Edited on 16/9/09 by scootz]
As I said in the other thread lol
BGH are the people to speak to.
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Originally posted by scootz
Maybe the question should be... can a Type 9 be 'up-rated' to take serious abuse!
Onto a new thread...
Can easily be uprated to around 300bhp. The quaife will take even more. what about a cossie box ??
Thanks Mr Monkey... glad you caught up with me!
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Originally posted by austin man
what about a cossie box ??
I have been putting 300 plus through mine for over a year now, this is with two trackdays and 14 runs at santapod, broke a driveshaft and propshaft but my 1600 type 9 is still going strong.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by austin man
what about a cossie box ??
Was this not the T5 box?
Then I'm back to the bellhousng problem... no-one does a bellhouse for Audi engine to T5 - just the Type 9.
Any idea's how much it would cost to have a 'bespoke' bellhouse machined... surely not as much as a Quaife Type 9, etc!
there is this one: linky
and ask them to make ones thats not drilled / finished - then take it to Mr Winter 
or what about an adapter plate ?
btw the rwd cossies used the "non-world class" version of the T5,
but you can find a "world class" version in Mustangs and TVR's with rover V8's
another linky
[Edited on 16/9/09 by mcerd1]
[Edited on 16/9/09 by mcerd1]
From box to bellhouse, or bellhouse to engine?
You may be suprised.
Would need to be cast, which means a pattern needs to be made, then a sand mould then the part cast.
Plus all the design work and development to get a good casting out of it in the first place.
Wouldnt be cheap. There are 'rapid' prototype casting methods available, but they are also rather expensive.
I would estimate around £1000-1500 to have a custom one cast if you did the design (first off). Be prepared for a few of the first casts to fail due
to blow holes or porosity too probably then looking at £150 each plus mod costs for supsequent ones. Then it will need machining front and back,
boring to fit the box and release bearing and drilling to suit. Probably another £150-200 on top for the first off. Maybe £50 for each subsequent
assuming CNC.
Starts to get expensive unless there is a market for them.
www.feckinconfused.com
^^^ edited above with links
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Originally posted by scootz
From box to bellhouse, or bellhouse to engine?
Couldn't do that to Sid!
Or could I??? 
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Originally posted by scootz
Couldn't do that to Sid!
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there is this one: linky
and ask them to make ones thats not drilled / finished - then take it to Mr Winter
Yep - that would make sense... see if they'll supply one unfinished on the gearbox side!
if you could get the bellhousing undrilled (at the gearbox end at least) it could make to job easier
do you know anyone you could borrow a T5 from ?
as I've got this type 9 in the house just now if you wanted to compair them
(its actually a BGH E8 good for 300+bhp 
- and no you can't have it 
)
[Edited on 16/9/09 by mcerd1]
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Originally posted by mcerd1
Do you know anyone you could borrow a T5 from?
a hope this is no you going to distroy another car scoots with your daft skeems
At last... tempted the wee munchkin out of his engineering hole!
Say hello to Mr Widz everyone... I'll translate for him (at 10p per post!).
btw - whats happening in this town today ?
all quiet for weeks - then I've been round to see Sid, come home and seen that orange thing driving around, then got a call from Ian and now your
back on the hunt for a rwd gearbox.....
must be something in the air today
Sunshine!?
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Originally posted by widz
a hope this is no you going to distroy another car scoots with your daft skeems
widz spotted !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLhiZv3ZTzI
The T5 box is a lot bigger and a lot more weight but can handle big power outputs
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widz spotted !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLhiZv3ZTzI
well s best time at crail was 13 .2 sec the wee man,s best time 12.4 a rest ma case
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I'll maybe have to buy him an adjustable pedal box for Xmas to bring them closer... must be murder trying to drive that car with those ickle legs
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well s best time at crail was 13 .2 sec the wee man,s best time 12.4 a rest ma case
scoots was really quick in that not
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Originally posted by scootz
It's got a Pinto in it, so I don't feel bad about pulling it out and sticking something modern in it!
How can you say that... I weighed 110kg at the time! That's 30 more than you... like having a baby elephant on the back of my Kart! Now
I'm a svelte 85kg, we'll have to do it all again and see what happens!
Anyway, look at the way I ATTACKED those corners that day... poetry in motion!
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you would need to get down to 5stone to beat me
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Originally posted by scootz
It's got a Pinto in it, so I don't feel bad about pulling it out and sticking something modern in it!
whats going to happen to the pinto ?
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Originally posted by widz
you would need to get down to 5stone to beat me
I don't really need another engine (I've got 2 complete & 2 dead pinto's as it is), but I'll give you a few £ for it if no one
else wants it
I may know of a home for a half decent one - do you think the postage will be expencive ?
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you would need to get down to 5stone to beat me
Impossible... there's a certain part of my anatomy that weighs more than that all by itself and I couldn't cut THAT off!
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PS - When are we going Karting again!
I'm not seeing a time on that sheet for Mr Widz... I recall him going backwards at one point. DNF?
Maybe he's still on track?
PS - Yes, sorry folks, the thread has taken a bit of a twist (Thread Title amended to reflect). I'm still listening to gearbox advise... and
fending off Mr Widz's spurious allegations regarding my crap karting ability!
Could do with you looking at it anyway Robert... would maybe help if someone who knows about these things could give me a few pointers!
karting is £60 a driver at the moment - next time I hear of any deals going I'll let folk know (prpbably when the weather isn't so good 
)
I can't rember what happened to him - sometimes the timing gear messes it up.
his best time was on the first heat (2nd best of the day I think)
my best was +0.13" (about 4th I think)
but yours was +2'33"
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Originally posted by scootz
Could do with you looking at it anyway Robert... would maybe help if someone who knows about these things could give me a few pointers!
Based on your original question, on the other thread, an MT75 (later ford) box can be mated to the Audi 1,8T 20V lump.
I am not 100% certain on what is involved, but a firm (again from the netherlands) called ALphax do the bits.
I have the adaptor plate, but nothing else
Sean
Cheers Sean... what sort of power can you put through that box?
Polite Notice
Att Robert
Have you finished the DAX yet?
Not opened the link, but is the dutch adaptor a bellhousing or just an adaptor plate?
If its just a plate that bolts to the engine, and the bellhousing on the type 9 then surely its just an adaptor from audi to ford bellhousing
patterns?
If so surely a cossie T5 should fit as it has a ford bellhousing pattern.......
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Originally posted by scootz
Cheers Sean... what sort of power can you put through that box?
Cheers!