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Exposed Rear End on Se7en
scootz - 23/1/10 at 07:58 PM

Clearly feeling a tad better as starting to think of garagey stuff again!



Had taken the bodywork off the Xtreme a while ago as I was going to re-paint. Still lying in the garage naked (the car - not me ).

Struck me that it's actually quite a nice bit of engineering - especially at the back! Got me thinking about leaving the rear-end exposed once (if!) it's all re-built!

Taking legalities and practicalities aside (it's a registered car), does anyone think that this could 'work' with the boot section left off? I'm thinking along the lines of freshly coating / painting all exposed parts (wishbones, diff, tank, diff cradle, etc) in bodywork contrasting colours and fabbing a pair of light-pods. Wheels covered by cycle wings.

Or have I just been taking too many painkillers for too long...

PS - The boot on the Quantum is mahoosive and weighs a ton!


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MakeEverything - 23/1/10 at 08:00 PM

I like the idea. The worst part of a seven, is the basket at the back.


mcerd1 - 23/1/10 at 08:06 PM

how did I know this was going to be one of your posts




you might want to cover the fuel tank wich something


scootz - 23/1/10 at 08:15 PM

Like a nice lace-doily or something?


scootz - 23/1/10 at 08:16 PM

I do have the option of relocating the tank to under the scuttle (why not... can't be any more bizarre than any of my other ideas ).


MakeEverything - 23/1/10 at 08:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I do have the option of relocating the tank to under the scuttle (why not... can't be any more bizarre than any of my other ideas ).


That would make the weight distribution somewhat unbalanced though...


scootz - 23/1/10 at 08:24 PM

With my fat ass in the driving seat then weight distribution is the last thing I need to worry about...

Good point though!

If I did go down the 'naked-bum' route, then a fabbed tank that better suits the rear profile is not too much of a hardship!

just playing with thought...


scootz - 23/1/10 at 08:26 PM

Nice set of shiny shocks.... new handbrake cables... neat cabling... am I convincing anyone???

Whaddya mean don't be stoopid???

Where's Widz when I need his blunt guidance!?


big_wasa - 23/1/10 at 08:49 PM

How many pain killers have you been taking this last week ?


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:00 PM

That'll be the first... no then!


Steve Hignett - 23/1/10 at 09:04 PM

I think it's a great idea, and no I am not being sarcastic!

Do it Scott!


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:07 PM

1-1


stevebubs - 23/1/10 at 09:12 PM

Do you really want to run with the tank that exposed?


mcerd1 - 23/1/10 at 09:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I do have the option of relocating the tank to under the scuttle (why not... can't be any more bizarre than any of my other ideas ).


heve you been looking at Widz's dax then ?

[Edited on 23/1/10 by mcerd1]


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:16 PM

No, but you've just reminded me that the fuel tank is pretty much on his lap!


mcerd1 - 23/1/10 at 09:21 PM

^^^ and down the side of the prop


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Do you really want to run with the tank that exposed?


My line of thinking is that the grp boot-box is not going to do an awful lot in a collision. Definitely less vulnerable up there than where the tank was located on my old Caterham...

Still, it's is something that I did think of, hence the potential for relocating the tank to the scuttle.

Just thinking out loud... well, thinking in type!


mcerd1 - 23/1/10 at 09:28 PM

has anyone ever told you your dangerous when you think


blakep82 - 23/1/10 at 09:28 PM

could look pretty cool, but... i think with all the boring stuff you need to have on the road, lights (and cabling) number plates etc, you might end up with all manner of nasty looking bits needing to be added to support all those things. if a race car, then yes it would work, but i think it might look a bit messy when you come to put all the road legal stuff on


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
has anyone ever told you your dangerous when you think


Frequently... especially the voices in my head!


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
has anyone ever told you your dangerous when you think


Frequently... especially the voices in my head!


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:32 PM

I think I've thunk a bit more and yes, it probably would be potty running with a tank exposed like that... slightest prang and the motion-lotion is going to fly everywhere!

Soooo... lets work on the provision of the tank being relocated!

Proceed so...


blakep82 - 23/1/10 at 09:42 PM

some sort of box section protector cage for the tank?


scootz - 23/1/10 at 09:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
some sort of box section protector cage for the tank?


That could work... will have a god look at it again in the morning!


Richard Quinn - 23/1/10 at 11:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
slightest prang and the motion-lotion is going to fly everywhere!

There's no much between you and the 4x4 running into the back of you anyway. I'd just make a feature of it. Get it all polished up!
The only issue would be the fact that you are advertising that as where you store the expensive fuel and it wouldn't surprise me if you pull away from lights dragging a pikey and his piece of tubing with you!


Steve Hignett - 23/1/10 at 11:43 PM

All that's in most backends as far as protection goes is a bit of fibreglass...

Go for it, and if you need to build in a bit of pretection then make a feature of some sort of cage...

Or better still, have a tank made, with some ribs in the outside of it for protection, or make it up in CF or Carbon/Kevlar etc...


RK - 23/1/10 at 11:54 PM

Personally, I think it would look absolutely Ridiculous. But that's just me.

What's wrong with the new Westfield look or something? I think the back panel on the regular old 7 looks great, and in fact, a stroke of genius, or my name isn't Colin Chapman. Wait a minute...

[Edited on 23/1/10 by RK]


norfolkluego - 24/1/10 at 01:18 AM

Stick a roof on it and some nice orange bodywork and you've just reinvented the Bond Bug

I'm not saying that's a good thing mind.

[Edited on 24/1/10 by norfolkluego]


morcus - 24/1/10 at 07:34 AM

I like the Idea, classic V-Dub type jobby with a bar/cage type arangement would look good.


gottabedone - 24/1/10 at 10:28 AM

You're going to have to run rear wings anyway so build your rear lights into those. Maybe find a way to put some front wings on the back to let you see more of the suspension/framework.
As for some limited tank/go juice protection, what about a foam filled tank behind a plate that mimics that good looking cross brace with it's triangular holes.
You can also hide your rear wiring in conduit or tubing that you could make to look like part of the chassis

+1 from me

Steve


Ninehigh - 24/1/10 at 10:41 AM

Actually that has the potential to look really good, maybe some kind of clear perspex to cover it up over a frame?


OX - 24/1/10 at 12:10 PM

could you make some sort of bull bar for the rear


Angel Acevedo - 24/1/10 at 02:55 PM

I remember seeing a trike with the tank being part of the seat (Single Seater)
with thick aluminum, and a lot of curves and welds, not easy, but doable, if ou make two seat tanks, you may just have adjustability on your COG, and option to have long range.
The only problem then is if you get T-Boned as you will be seating on the Fuel


davidinhull - 24/1/10 at 03:23 PM

I'd definetly put some wheels on


Angel Acevedo - 26/1/10 at 01:17 PM

You may put a Hazardous /Flammable cargo Sticker on your tank.
Don´t know how it works in UK Europe though...


Fred W B - 26/1/10 at 05:16 PM

Have a look at the "twin tech" for inspiration. I think this looks ace.

Website is www.twintechcars.com

Cheers

Fred W B




[Edited on 26/1/10 by Fred W B]


Angel Acevedo - 26/1/10 at 05:22 PM

Too cheese for me,
It looks like you´re hauling a heart....


Fred W B - 26/1/10 at 05:26 PM

Okay, ignoring the roll bars then.......

Cheers

Fred W B


Rod Ends - 26/1/10 at 06:14 PM

www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0910_custom_peterbilt_rod/index.html


kipper - 26/1/10 at 11:09 PM

My other speed machine ,apart from my STM,has the petrol tank between my legs with no protection ... Honda made it that way on the Fireblade.
I think your Idea is inspired and should be encouraged.(sp)
Regards Denis.


scootz - 28/1/10 at 01:26 AM

Thanks for the input guys!

Some good suggestions there...


wilkingj - 31/1/10 at 02:36 PM

I suggest you check out the legality of putting the petrol tank under the scuttle before doing anything.
Effectively its INSIDE the passenger / driver compartment.
I would have thought there are some safety regs to abide by if its actually allowed at all.
In the rear, its not in the people space / area.

Personally speaking I wouldnt want it sitting above my legs.
ie an accident, Legs trapped, and petrol leaking onto them. It doesnt bear thinking about.

I would think long and hard, and read up on the regs before putting it anywhere in the people compartment.
If you do it and its against the regs, then an insurance company or your passenger would crucify in court you in the event of an accident.
Its not just the risk to you, but to your passengers and anyone else if you sell the car.

As for the way its currently located in the rear. Personally, I would want some more protection than there is. I know there are several manufacturers with this type of rear end.
Not a design I would prefer to have for myself. My Viento is not much better when it comes to rear end protection either!
Anything has to be better than nothing at all.

Just my thoughts and 2d worth.


scootz - 24/3/10 at 03:16 PM

Not a great deal of progress, but...


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cd.thomson - 24/3/10 at 03:19 PM

that explains why that other bloke didnt want to buy it

I like it.


scootz - 24/3/10 at 03:36 PM


MikeRJ - 24/3/10 at 03:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
My line of thinking is that the grp boot-box is not going to do an awful lot in a collision.


GRP is an excellent energy absorber in an accident!


scootz - 24/3/10 at 03:51 PM

To be honest, I've dispensed with all regard to safety... I mean, who cares?

No one who I like will get into a car with me either, so that's the issue of responsibility sorted!

As long as it's roadworthy, then that'll do me!


mcerd1 - 24/3/10 at 04:27 PM

so what engine have you got left that'll fit in it then ?


eddie99 - 24/3/10 at 04:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
No one who I like will get into a car with me either, so that's the issue of responsibility sorted!




scootz - 24/3/10 at 04:30 PM

I only have the 2 just now Robert... the RS4 V8 and a 1.8 MX5 engine.

I suspect neither will be getting fitted to it though!

Which reminds me... I really should get round to selling the MX5 engine... over to the For sale section I go!

PS - What's growing inside the crane at the back of your building?


mcerd1 - 24/3/10 at 04:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
PS - What's growing inside the crane at the back of your building?


thats just one of these: linky - its almost at the knees/elbows now (I think)



more to the point do you like my crane ?

[Edited on 24/3/10 by mcerd1]


MikeRJ - 24/3/10 at 05:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
To be honest, I've dispensed with all regard to safety... I mean, who cares?



Well I wasn't so much thinking of an accident caused by your driving, as to some idiot in a 4x4 (or even a small car) rear ending you which has to be a significant risk these days.